posted Thu, 12/19/2019 - 01:37
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Need opinions on lean bulk
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Looking to start a lean bulk cycle, and am very indecisive at the moment. I’m thinking test, with a Superdrol or dbol kick (have ran both because I know it will be asked) and either EQ or npp. In your experience which compound would be better for my goals?
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test and dbol.
test starts low a gradually goes up.
example- test e- 400mgs a week for 5 weeks the 600mgs a week for 5 weeks then up to 750mgs a week for remainder.
dbol 50mgs first 4 weeks.
Why do u taper up test like that?
Master the kitchen first bro, put some weight on naturally and consistent gym sesssions. THEN lets talk about AAS and such.
The kitchen is mastered lol as I said below I have a nutrition coach. Stripped down from 230 on 150 mg’s of test so now I want to cycle again and grow.
The "lean" part of lean bulk is DIET. I have cut on NPP and drol and bulked on tren. Diet is king bro
ReimnesBest advice. Diet diet diet...... bulking cutting whatever... Diet is king.
Alphamale500If the choice is between just EQ and Npp, I'd go with the Npp! But rather than running superdrol or dbol with those, maybe you can run some tbol or anavar.
Rustyhookerpriors? You believe his stats too?
Alphamale500Even though I only provided just some general information on those compounds, you're absolutely right! I should've asked him to provide some priors before providing any information about the compounds he asked about. My fault! And regarding his stats, no I don't believe them. They seem like just some made up numbers that sound like what a real bodybuilder who uses AAS user might have. And when someone puts their age at 26, it sounds a little suspicious to me. Lol, but he doesn't even know his own fuckn height!!
I have ran test, tren, EQ, dbol, mast, superdrol, some prohormones in the past too (not all at once of course) and my stats are accurate. I’m 5’11-6’0 roughly and 210 pounds right now. Last time I checked my body fat was around 10-11% but might be a tad higher now co spidering I’ve been in a surplus for about 2 months now. I also have a nutrition coach who is very good so that part is taken care of.
Alphamale500Wait a minute! You said above;
"I’m 5’11-6’0 roughly and 210 pounds right now."
"my stats are accurate"
My bad bro, but I'm just calling this how I see it. I didn't notice this the other day. Clearly from your own words, your stats are not accurate. So why did you put your height at 6'1" in your stats if you're only 5'11"? Also, you put your weight at 215lbs, and now you're saying that you're 210lbs! I can see you possibly getting your weight wrong by a little bit, but I just can't believe that you don't even know your correct height. You're saying that you're height is somewhere between 5'11" and 6'1", but you're not sure?
Everyone, especially serious bodybuilders and AAS users know their exact height, and usually their exact weight! I'm calling bullshit here bro!! I think your stats are complete bullshit, including your alleged age of 26. I'd bet you're probably some 19yr old kid who's 5'9", and who weighs only 165 lbs. Am I spot on, or at least close? It's alright, everyone's knows already. The one thing that really makes you look like you're full of shit, is how you say your height is roughly between 5'"11 and 6'1".
How can you possibly have that much of a difference in your knowledge of your exact height?? It just doesn't make sense. Smh, Lol!
Bang'emLoL dont we lose a bit of height as we get older LMAO
Lmfao 19 years old, I wish....I used to be a member on this site a few years back, asked an admin to delete my page because I was going for a certain job at the time(deep background check)and I had people tell me if you google the old name a bunch of steroid shit from the forums came up (the old name was the same as my social media name) so now I’m back under a different name. I just got done with a cut and have been on a steady bulk, and I suspect I’ll be hitting the 2-5 mark in. Few weeks and I’m 26 mother fuckin years old. I put 6’1 in my profile for anonymous reasons but I’m actually 5’11. Is that better now......
Hitting the 215 mark in a few weeks*
Rustyhookerlean bulk cycle
Simple test eq cycle. No need to go crazy on chems and require more chems to fix errors. 400 test...600eq. Bloods week 6 to see if you need ai. Nutrition coach will guide the rest.
So you think is eq is a better fit here than npp?
RustyhookerI like both. You gonna actually do proper bloods that check estro and prolactin? Have extras like caber and extra nolva if issues pop up?
Best idea from here is you post up your findings and route you like to do? Dial it in and see how it goes
Yes sir, never run a 19-nor without caber or Prami on hand. Also have some aromason and nolvadex too. I have found that with smaller but more frequent injections the side effects become much less if you are prone to any estrogen/progesterone sides!
I actually have some tbol on hand, was thinking of maybe using that as the start instead. Or on the tail end
Alphamale500Tbol will be better at the start, rather than the end. Tbol can be great, especially when running it with multiple other compounds. It'll have a synergistic effect with the other compounds. Tbol will reduce SHBG levels as well, which is a great benefit in it own right.
Rustyhookerpriors?
Priors are crickets, dead silence, and cosigner only please.
I listed some priors in the original post, and more in the comments as well...
Perfect painting is easier when you have the canvas.
I’ll try my best but I don’t fully remember to be quite honest. I did a test only cycle, then test and dbol. Then test and mast. Then test and tren, and I believe test and EQ after that. Ran superdrol before the prohormones ban. I haven’t done a cycle in probably 3 years, but have been on 150 mgs of test per week for the last 3-4 months, so looking to get back into the game a little bit and was just looking for advice since I haven’t tried npp.
RustyhookerSo true. Standards died long ago. YOLO!!!
You can easily just do a Very effective, safe lean bulk with Test & NPP using moderate doses
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It won't be a lean bulk if you use DBOL! Try Test, Mast and EQ reasonable doses not extreme!
I always tend to use conservative doses. I’m not a huge fan of high doses and blowing up too fast if that makes sense
Blowing up to fast lol. Is that like getting to big lol
No. I just mean I feel like the slow quality gains are more sustainable. I. D.n.t like putting on 30 pounds super quick and getting more bloated, etc...
Yeh you have to be very careful not to become massive overnight as its a really easy thing to do - I mean who'd want to look like they had gained some muscle.
Not really what i was saying. I already have people occluding me of being on steroids when I’m not so I’m just saying I prefer the slower more sustainable/less bloat type of gains...don’t want it to be extremely obvious I’m on.
Post a self pic. You won’t get sign off on an adv cycle without showing you’re ready.
Is this for competition?
We need more detailed stats...lifting experience, cycle experience, true height/weight/body fat %, training routine etc. Also need more details on your specific goals as "lean bulk" is pretty generic.
Also, how long are you wanting to stay on and how frequently do you want to inject? Those two will be major factors in choosing between EQ and NPP.
Btw, Superdrol is grotesquely liver toxic and I wouldn't recommend to anyone. 30 mg/day had me literally puking blood and unable to eat after 13 days.
Please follow up with more details.
I’ve been lifting for about 13 years now. Bodybuilding consistently for at least 6. Just got done with a cut, got down to around 10% body fat at 210. I do a push pull legs training split. I haven’t take a real cycle in a few years but have been on 150 mg of test a week from the doctor. I will inject every day if I have to, injection frequency isn’t really a problem for me. Also if I run superdrol over dbol it’ll only be at 10 mg’s a day.
You cant use the word "only" with SD, i have used it and no matter what everyone says its a strong dose, i can give my opinion but with no pics is difficult to say.
No orals to start a lean bulk (Dbol is by no means for lean bulk in my opinion) and i would use Test and EQ or Test and low dose NPP, if you want to add and oral use LGD (perfect for lean bulk in my opinion) or Rad140... And SD only in the last weeks if you weight doesnt go up (also dont use it if you have used some of the Sarms mentioned above).
RustyhookerJust got done with a cut
Time off bro
I wasn’t running a cycle while cutting
When you say a "real cycle" will you give some examples? Just want an idea of what substances you have used and what, if any sides you experienced.
Regardless, at the end of the day success or failure is going to boil down to diet. Unless you are planning to compete soon I would suggest you really lazer focus your goals and go for more bulk and less lean. If you're truly 6'0,210 lbs and 10% body fat you have plenty of room to gain a little fat and maximize gains then shred the fat post cycle.
I’ve used test, mast, eq, dbol, tren, in the past. Not all at once of course. I don’t think I’ll ever run tren again. The insomnia just isn’t worth it for me. I’ve never used npp but am curious about it. Also thought about trying to find some dihydroboldenone.
AnonYou like pip?
If you really want to run lean I think your best bet would be Test Prop/NPP. This way you won't need an oral to kick start it due to the short esters as well as less estrogen related sides due to lower conversion rates.