+ 7 My experience with tren
First of all tren is NOT to be taken lightly. Alot of guys here jump on the tren train with little to no experience with basic compounds and sides not to mention there own bodies and physiology. You wouldn't take (never mind pass) a calculus course without knowing the fundamentals of algebra first so grow the fuck up and learn!
Even those in the know are on a learning curve and need to find there own personal sweet spot. Myself, as well as others here, would agree that ace is preferential over enth. Its much easier to make adjustments and if sides get too bad riding them out for 3days as opposed to 2wks is the way to go.
I find ED preferential to EOD to keep levels steady (not rocket science) Fluctuating hormone levels can lead to irritation. Fluctuating tren levels could lead to amplified irritation.
Tren has its own intensity to it. IME I don't realize exactly how intense I get until I come off. Some of you remember my tren experience last summer when my girl walked out on me. I was also having altercations at the gym as well as with the general public. This is common fallout while on tren.
I have found for myself that 4wks is my sweet spot before I start to crack so the 6-8
wk runs aren't for me. A 4 wk finisher is MY ideal.
I have also found besides caber (or prami) a low dose Stanz (25-35mg)helps with sides.
Once again, you tren cowboys need to grow the fuck up. The majority of bad press about "Roid Rage" comes from the misuse/abuse of tren. Do yourself and OUR community a favor and take your time. This is not a race. I'f you are not mature enough to heed the words of those who have blazed the path before you then you are not mature enough to jump on the tren train.
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BenchanitorHow does winstrol help tren sides? Also is adex okay to take when on tren/test prop...
C'mon bro-inator, go play with these other fuckers ;)
Would a dose of 200mg tren-e be worth taking?
I love the benefits on paper it has, igf increase, nutrient partioning, fat loss, body recomp, strength ect..
But I have bipolar disorder (currently not taking meds, but have access to anything needed).... This is my big concern and what has stopped me from ever considering taking tren for a few year, I need input from the people with experience with the mental sides especially..
Stats:
AGE = 29
Weight = 131kg
BF = 18%
cycles = Blast/cruise (save the lectures and preaching)
Blast part of cycle:
2-3g test/week (very mild increase in aggression if this helps?)
1g deca/week (recently dropped, couldnt see any benifit)
Cruise part of cycle:
1000mg test/week
(and previously 1000mg deca/week, but dropped it)
Ide like to add 200mg of tren-e/week through out both parts of cycle? maybe even as low as 100mg/week? Any benefit you guys can see?
Thanks heaps in advance guys, really looking forward to learning about this drug.
I'm bipolar,unmedicated and ran it(regretibly a freind told me it was a good idea I listened to him, I know better now and know I'm to young to run anything).That being said, tren really fucked with my head.It sent my temper through the roof I got in ALOT of stupid fights and beat a kid who I didn't like unconcious as a result of loosing control.I'm not proud of any of this and wouldn't reccomend you run it based on how it went over with me.Hope this helps you bro:)
i think a smart idea would be to try it slowly using tren-a. literally start at 25mg eod if you're worried and slowly work up. you'll know if problems arise and you'll be able to cut it back right away with the short ester. you might surprise yourself with how you tolerate it. tren sides are EXTREMELY individual in my opinion, there is a slight bias that exists because the people who experience very bad sides are more likely to create posts than those that don't have terrible sides. when i first tried i was so nervous, i thought it would make me insane like i read on the interweb. i got no terrible sides, just some sweats, NO insomnia, NO acting like a freak and i went up to 100mg ED. just my experience. you have to have your own experience. just start slow and be responsible. hope this helped.
I've been playing with the idea of adding 200 tren to my spring/summer cycle. Although not a fan of tren e I do have some on hand and have been figuring on a way of using it. The research I've been looking at states that high test/low tren or high tren/low test greatly reduces sides. I have no hands on with this as of yet hence playing with the idea. Then of course there is the fact that we all may respond differently by countless variables.
IMO If you already have an existing mood disorder than I would refrain
Bro, trust me when I tell you with the mental part, it's not fucking worth it.
My brother is also bipolar, so I understand your illness quite well.
Personally I would never touch tren with your background, especially tren e. if anything goes wrong, it will be 2 weeks+ before the issues subside. Obviously it's your choice, but with a mood imbalance like yours, I'd stay we'll away. It can be a rough road for this without a psychiatric illness.
Thanks heaps for v responses guys...
Ive done a years research on v drug and i always knew it wouldnt be a smart choice...
But got lured in by reading too much positve info it... i had to mention my mental condition even though it embrasses me... because if it affects you guys bad... it could be worse for me.. i dont wana cause any more stress on my family with mood swings ect for a few more lbm.....
Thsnks heaps... saved me from making a bad move
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Good info here. Still think I'll avoid the tren train. I def dont need to be a huge butthole.. Same reason jack doesn't hang out anymore.
Hey hllwd you mentioned stanz to help with sides you talking about winny? Also when you run lets say a prop/ace/mast cycle do you still need and Ai and caber?
Yes, I prefer oil based to water
...and compounds are compounds bro regardless of ester. As far as "need" goes this falls under learning curve and personal experience but YES to always having them on hand
zewiyeah cause water sucks.. and should be dis-invented.
Great post. Although im officially done with tren, the 4 weeks finisher doesnt sound like a bad idea. +1 from me
Great post Bro..
of course all of the young guys are going to chime in on why they are the exception and rush it any ways + 1 from me
Great post.
What's the rush with tren? Plenty of other compounds to use before diving onto the train.
Just curious, how do you like to run your tren? Low dose/trt test with higher tren or higher dosed test and tren... I just like to hear experienced people's opinions on that subject.. Since I keep reading that aggression isn't nearly as bad with lowtest/higher tren cycles pinned ED..
zewiIMO i think your goal is more tren than test.(reason is Tren will win when fighting for receptors every time) I believe when you start to use tren--it should be with test p and tren a. You should start at = amounts. Start test p @ 50mg and tren A @ 50mg ED.. and then after 2 weeks move the tren to 75mg ED.. after 2 more weeks if your still good move to 100mg of tren ED.. Like i said
Exactly kinda info im lookin for :-) thank you sir zewi
Yeah I would imagine that leaves test just floating around being beat to the receptors.. So the more test the more sides maybe ie aggression, hair loss.. Because technically tren shouldn't cause hair loss.. but even the DHT the test converts to is getting beaten out by tren.. leaving a lot of it no where else to go but your scalp? Or am I wrong?
4-6 weeks max from now on for me too. After I break that point I don't see much more in the results department, just the dickhead department.
zewiI like Tren.. I use it different i don't do either EOD or ED. I do Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday. 100mg Tren A 50mg Test P. If just running the two of them.. But im with you Usually 6-8 weeks for me. However, i will use it as a kick and a taper at 4 week intervals.
AnonI love tren im one of the lucky bastards that really gets no sides. Currently im runnin 350mgs of enenthate and 400 of ace a week. Only sides are some sleepless nights and excess sweating. Other then that really not much im also runnin 400 mg of test e a week incase someone was.going to bash on me for runnin a tren only cycle which im not. my body recomposirion and strenghth gain off tren is awsome im srsly love the results tren gives me granted I eat good and train hard.
cdaddy7Excellent write up hllwdbdby, I am the same way with TrenA everyday injections vs eod...def love Tren A bc u can abort mission quick if sides become too much...I def will b tryn ur stanz buffer for the sides...what I have found that injecting ed that my aggression isn't as intense as well, but still remains LOL..what kills me is these guys jumping on the Tren train and yet they haven't hardly gotten past their first cycle and not to mention I have even seen them attempting to run it on first cycle....u said it right about knowing your body bc it Is so freakin important....I used to think that we should have more profiles on the site, but i feel differently bc I am thoroughly convinced that these noobs go to the profile pages on other sites and read a few attributes then see that 500:500 ratio and they are off to buy Tren....not reading the important part on prolactin, AR binding and how fast and hard it shuts you down....then want to shoot a shitload of test not knowing the estro conversion factors...it's scary as Hell....not to mention that when we try to advise them bc of our concern for their safety they get smartass and huffy puffy....LOL....the youth of today....I looked up to the vets in my gym.....not so today....then they wonder just where in the fuck their nuts went after a Tren only cycle...LOL
thanks for sharing brother