Nice try! You want to know about products READ REVIEWS or post this in SI threads of SRC's that carry these lines

veyron is good....BUT CRAZY PIP everytime bro!! test-e for me was a real pain...won't inject in the legs no more...if you got some veyron stick with shoulders and ass

I have had great results using both, I think it just depends on the batch IMO, I do think the veyron has more PIP and as viking said the kalpa is smoother.

Used both bro and my first choice would be kalpa smooth,no odour,no pip and kicks in fast.. i have also used all veyron oils and had great results.

If i opened my drawer and had a bottle of kalpa and a bottle of veyron of the same compound i would pick up the kalpa every time.

I have tried both and I like kalpa much better. Wayy less pip plus it doesn't have that awful smell that veyron does becouse that guiaciol crap. I honestly don't know why so many people like veyron, wayy better labs out there. Just shows what nice labels can do.

Hover over products, then click on Anabolic Steroids and reviews for specific products by specific brands are in there... I haven't used either, Veyron is suppossed to be good but has PIP, Kalpa is suppossed to be decent too. Just read the fckin reviews bud!!!