really no need. i took the majority of my dbol pre workout. gives you that same feeling as ''i just took something.. lets go!''d bol pumps are crazy...shit test e pumps are crazy anyways lol and then i reaalized i had the same energy with no pre workout as i did with. Yeah i still keep that tub of jacked in my bag for the days i just want to go home after work and sleep instead of the gym.

Yeah bro try it for a week and you will never go back. After all, thise pree workouts are all the same after a week or two your body gets used to it and its all placebo from there.

i use to use jacked but by the time the tub was done i was up to 3 scoops and it was not doing anything just stick to caffene bro i just take 200mg caffene before workout and it wirks good it takes about a week to get used to no preworkout but after that your workouts are the same as when you were talking

Thats the problem with those thing you get so used to em. Believe me once your off you'll see theres no need to take em. A cup of coffe pree workout is all you will ever need.

If you take in off cycle you can take it on cycle but, why would you. If i were you id just enjoy the insane d-bol pumps. Besides those pree workouts are all garbage, still to caffein.