posted Thu, 09/27/2012 - 10:47
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I am just starting a cutting cycle considering using Test prop and tren,
What about test E or Sustanon 250 with Deca?
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cdaddy7Here's my suggestion....and add in a cutting diet into the mix and dial it in and you will get strength, gain lean mass and cut with this very simple cycle...Others will come spin off of it with other options too Im sure
Week 1-4 Test P @100mg/EOD
Week 1-12 Test E @500mg/wk split
Week 12-14 Test P @100mg/EOD
***AI on deck your choice--Aromasin 12.5mg EOD or Arimidex .25mg every 3 days
Start PCT 3 days after last Test P shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Thanks Brother, I would have never thought to add the test e and I have some on deck!
cdaddy7This cycle is weighing on me too.... Your bf is low enough to benefit from this cycle too in combo with diet...That 1 Test Cyp addition will give you Tren-like strength for sure and lean mass to boot
Week 1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
Week 1-16 Test E @ 250mg/wk split
Week 1-16 1Test Cyp @ 400mg/wk split
Week 15-18 Test P @ 100mg EOD
This cycle is much easier for a third! Food is your control as you can get lean on anything with food commanding. Lots less pins as well. No carbs after two and you'll both lean while gaining quality muscle. High protein.
What cycle experience? What have you ran?
cdaddy7His response below was.."this is my third cycle. My first cycle consisted of Sustanon 250 at 750mg each week. My second consisted of T-400 at 1200mg each week and 40mg of var everyday."
Thanks brother.....drive textin. Tes and var experience
1-8 prop100eod
2-8 mast prop 150eod
2-8 var 60-80/day split
Adex as needed .25 e3d. If sensitive .25eod..
Pct two days after gear stops
Clomid 100...100..50...50
Nolva 40...40..20..20
Test is lower so theres less test water retention yet plenty to be horney. If you're diet is dead on point...you have 8Weeks to be flawless. Do not start unless below 12%bf.. 20mins cardio after every workout. Low salt. Lots water intake. No cables or machines. Hard-heavy-steel school.
A simple but effective cycle. If he really wants to get super lean and this is what I do during the summer, About 1-2 hours after dinner go to the track or run on the street for a half hour. I take a simple whey protein and 2000mg of glutamine to protect my muscles. To much cardio and not enough protein and aminos the cardio can start attacking your muscles.I find this combination protects my muscles while the extra cardio really burns away the fat. Then after returning from running take a complex protein shake with amino acids that promote growth factors (valine,glutamine,leucine,isoleucine) before bed.
Awesome info bro! Protecting the positive gains is a balance and you surely filled in the info!
cdaddy7I love it when tag team with good options bro....LOL I figured u were doing cardio for some reason and tryn to help u....nice cycle fast as always
Again you are right. From an old corny show "I love it when a plan comes together." Which show? But it is true, no one knows everything but together we fill in the blanks for the others and come up with the best answers for our brothers.
Bro in my opinion you are doing too much too fast. For your second cycle you should have not have been using over a gram of test a week. You would have grown off of 500-600mg each week. More is not always better. I would suggest this maybe
Week 1-6 Tbol 50mg each day.
Week 1-16 test E 500mg each week
Week 1-16 Equipoise 600mg a week
Week 1-4 test P 100mg every other day
Week 15-20 test p 100mg every other day
This was a cycle that's similar to my next cycle through the help of zewi so maybe him or cdaddy can confirm or alter this cycle to fit you
Thanks alot guys your an encylopedia of knoledge, much thanks gents
was expecting you to recommend him hulk var lol
why the Tbol if hes cutting, as he says
Tbol is good for dry lean gains. Just limits you finishers to non 17aa compounds.
cdaddy7Ok the Tren Dream is out unless you have at least TEN CYCLES under your belt...I see your stats and I want to know what cycle # this is for you and I want to know if your diet is on point bc thats where it all starts....And I got the cutting diet for you
My diet is super clean plan on eating 300g protein, 175G carbs, and 55G fat. No booze, this is my third cycle. My first cycle consisted of Sustanon 250 at 750mg each week. My second consisted of T-400 at 1200mg each week and 40mg of var everyday.
The info would be greatly appreciated!
cdaddy7You def need to up that protein to at least 400g....
Fully!
10 cycles for tren???? this sucks, i wont be able to do it for years,,I was planning it next year, read awesome shit about it and pics of those ones using it speak for themselves...
cdaddy7Consider 1 Test Cyp then..."Tren like" with strength and U know cdaddy can fix you up nicely in the diet/nutrition dept that can get you some nice gains...There are other compounds that you can add to the mix to yield you just as quality as Tren without the sides...Save Tren for when you have exhausted the diet, training, and gear and its just plateaued, then its Tren time and by that time you will have done well enough over ten to consider AND you will know your body better and how compounds work for you the best and worst...Waiting is not such a bad thing when you have great options and alternatives to consider
I agree, Im planning testE+EQ+prop kicker this winter, cant wait! will be my second cycle
NO tren for you bro till your 50... that means you have 19yrs to wait hahahahah.
haaaaa long wait!
What's your cycle history and what are your goals for this cycle? Lean?
Stabilize strength and limited muscle loss, getting as lean as possible
Have read your stats, what's your cycle history?
My diet is super clean plan on eating 300g protein, 175G carbs, and 55G fat. No booze, this is my third cycle. My first cycle consisted of Sustanon 250 at 750mg each week. My second consisted of T-400 at 1200mg each week and 40mg of var everyday.
The info would be greatly appreciated!
Even though some compounds may lend themselves to particular goals results are determined by diet and training
got your stats off profile whats your cycle history look like
Age: 27
Height: 5"10
Weight: 233
BF: 12
My diet is super clean plan on eating 300g protein, 175G carbs, and 55G fat. No booze, this is my third cycle. My first cycle consisted of Sustanon 250 at 750mg each week. My second consisted of T-400 at 1200mg each week and 40mg of var everyday.
The info would be greatly appreciated!