Great cycle, but getting little chunky.
Im 7 weeks of 14 weeks of test e 450mg weekly, taking AI eod, plus 500ui weekly of HCG i gained about a solid 35 pounds since i started pinning. BF spiked to 18% from 10%. I started out 150 with 10% bf before pinning. Im usually a hard gainer, last year bulk without the use of AAS, i only gained 12 pounds in 6 months.
I already passed my goal weight, i originally intended to bulk and hit 180, but right now I'm 185. and I'm thinking at this rate i might hit 200s after my cycle. And might get even more fatter. I eat very clean and solid food. Timed carbs and such. My diet is on a lock. 40carb 40protein 20fat eating at 3200 cal per day. I do cardio 3 times a week, and i work out everyday using a modified version of the 5x5 strong lifts. My supplements are basic whey, 369 omegas, vitamins, BCAA, Creatine, NOS, and casein.
Im planning to to take winny for the last 4 weeks of my cycle. My buddy of mine got t3 and clen and ended up using one dose of each and ended up not liking it so he's giving it to me.
Is it wise to stack T3 and Clen with my winny for the last 4 weeks of Test E to cut down any excess fat and get more of define muscular look? Being on AAS would prevent any catabolism. My goal is to hit 180 and in the single digit BF. Or should i just toss the t3 and clen cuz it might cause me to lose muscles the i've gained or side effects are too harsh. I can handle otc thermogenic with no problems.
This is my first AAS cycle. Been lifting seriously for a solid 3 years, played football and wrestling.
Any advice from the veterans?
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Usually the benefits of first aas cycle the most gain you can get , if your body of course reach the gains naturally. There are more things work with gaine wieght , for example sleeping at least for 8 hours in night , eat perfect , and train hard . About the fat you gained wait until the pct finished and see where is your body will go , then you will understand how much the food important , because if you take an aas without good food means fast you will lose the gain and the fat , for first time cycle stay away for the things you don't know , stay with the basics . And when everyone say eat and eat this doesn't mean eat everything , there are limits for bodybuilder food and must know what to eat , not everything you can eat when you are on cycle .
EAT... EAT MORE...WHEN YOU SAY YOUR FULL EAT AGAIN...... you can $19.95 to me for that advice lol
Funny you should say that. I've just had a load of pork with rice, twenty minutes later the wife comes home. "Anyone want some chicken?", well it would be rude not to as it's there even though I've just eaten half a pig.....
Any left overs I will be over
I never leave food. I offer a complete "food removal service"
Dont worry about chunky...... chunky is good, if you have gained 35lbs in 7 weeks then you are on a winner............ keep it up.... thats not hardgain territory......... thats fkn marvellous.
I must be doing it all wrong, trying to fucking creep up to 280 lb by lb...
yeah its time to leave the scale alone for a while when we start to see the ounces daily.... mirror is a different story altogether though
oh good, youre a "hardgainer". I used to be one of those myself back when i first starte, guess what the remedy is for a "hardgainer"..........eat more, problem solved. You thought you were eating alot, you werent, fact. Count everything you eat on a daiily basis and youll be shocked at how little it is. There is no such thing as a hard gainer, like flash said just undereaters. There is such thing as a fast metabolism, that just means you have to eat more then the next guy.
Seriously though, steroids at 150lbs? Why would you put your health at risk for gains that you could easily accomplish naturally? That makes little sense to me. your goal of 180lbs sub 10% should have been pretty easily attainable with some dedicaton and paitence. 12lbs in 6 months, thats two pounds a month, you wanna know how much muscle the body can gain naturally in a month? about 2lbs of dry tissue, add some increased glycogen from the new muscle an a litttle bloat and you should have been able to gain 3-4lbs of fat free weight a month, so you were under eating. No clen t3 or winny you dont even know the side effects of those fat burners or what they do, Just run the cycle out run a good pct and hope to keep 1/4th of the weight you gained.
Straightest answer i got! Thanks irongame. I shall just run this cycle and pct after.
Yep gotta agree with crew below...plus drop the hcg...cuz its probably contributing to your estro water gains....u might end up.with a solid 5lbs after PCT....DIET IS MAIN FOCUS with a macros to meet your goals...winny clen t3 not needed...u start manipulating thyroid and CNS and raise liver emzymes with stanozolol and u will be all messed up and wonder what happened when ur gains are gone....
U should have gotten bloodwork last week...what did ur estro LH/FSH reveal?
hard gainer= under eater, get rid of it all twiglet.
Rustyhooker5-11 @ 150 at start
Blood tested?
Ai?
Diet obviously jacked. Impastable is correct
No. Why the hell are you even on cycle... 7 weeks in and only at 183? Cmon man. Your diet is off.
Take the T3, take the clen. Put into the toilet, drink a bottle of miralax, take a good oily shit all over it, and flush. That's the only use of T3 and clen.
oily shit....I love reading the forums before work. Puts a smile on my face half the day.
Gotta agree with that /////////// +3