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I found out today that EQ lowers my estradiol. I had intended to run 400mg EQ for 20 weeks alongside my TRT test dose. My goal was simply to see how I reacted to this compound. I experienced an increased appetite and some increased vascularity, but nothing extreme. The first 4 weeks I ran 100mg/week of test along the 400mg of EQ. I felt that I was having low estrogen sides so I upped the test to 200mg/week. Felt better with more test so I thought I had balanced things out. Got bloodwork 4 weeks after upping the test and found my estrogen was 12, while my testosterone was between 1000-1100. I can’t comment on any improvement in joints related to the EQ, I suspect the extra crackles and pops were related to the low estrogen. Anyway, I know the concept of EQ acting as an AI has been discussed before, but I figured I would add my experience. Also a reminder to everyone to get bloodwork done!!

the_gainz's picture

I’ve thought about using EQ as an AI in the future. Might have to go with bold cyp myself since EQ has such a long half life.

Dacky's picture

900mg of Bold Cyp pw and 600mg of a Test400 blend plus 50mg Provi per day and I actually crashed my estrodial. No AI. It’s crazy how potent an AI it can be for some. I’m also a high testosterone metaboliser (get very high numbers of relatively low doses) and will only normally run an AI if going over 500mg of Test E/C per week. I also convert a lot of testosterone to DHT. Given the way Bold metabolises I always wondered if my particular metabolic profile had anything to do with it. I’d be interested to know what sort of a testosterone metaboliser you are given you’ve got bloodwork.

the_gainz's picture

Thanks for sharing your experience. My conversion factor for test is usually between 5-6x. (100mg test c per week gets me to 500-600) I pin e3d, so this is my trough level taken ~72 hours after injection. As far as E2 conversion, I’ll take 6.25 of aromasin e3d for a simple 500mg test/week. That puts my E2 between 25-30 usually where I feel the best.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I’m not going to run EQ anymore. Takes to long and I’m not patient enough... I’ll stick with my Masteron from here on out.

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johnmarshall12's picture

I have seen others report this. no one really knows why it has this affect, but it does, so you need to monitor E2 so as not to crash it!

Peppone's picture

Exactly bro! you anticipated me :-)

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johnmarshall12's picture

ty....good to know!

the_gainz's picture

Appreciate it brother. Bloodwork could save a lot of folks a headache from playing the guessing game with estrogen levels.

Weezel's picture

Not one thing hits two people the same way. I stay on the higher end of E2 but As you stated, goes to show to get your bloodwork. You said you originally intended a 5 monther. So i'm just curious, how far did you make it, from what i'm reading, was it 8 weeks?

the_gainz's picture

Correct. I chose to drop the EQ, rather than increasing the test again. It would be difficult to tell the effects of the EQ on more of a cycle-level of test. As I’ve gotten older, I prefer lower doses and seeing how I react to individual compounds.

GizmoDuck's picture

Yup! It does. But not on everyone tho. I had this discussion with some of the people here when I posted my labs recently. It had that effect on me man. Lowered mine to below detection rate too.

the_gainz's picture

It is strange. Seems it can go either way. I’d love to know the science behind it, but that may never be studied.

DfromPhilly's picture

Obviously I’m not a scientist, but I did do a butt ton of research on it and did my best to sum up what I did find here, also provided stories with bloodwork along the way.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/equipoise-eq-...

Way to get bloods done boss. That’s what it’s all about. ++

the_gainz's picture

Wow. I appreciate all the research you put together for that post. Great read.

GizmoDuck's picture

Yup. You and I were the unfortunate ones. Ha