posted Mon, 03/05/2012 - 16:48
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Anybody know why Deca is always associated with lubrication of joints or connective tissue repair but not other water retaining compounds. The point was brought up that NPP doesn't have the same effect as Deca on the joints due to lack of water retention. I assumed (wrongly) that nandrolone had something to do with with the lubricating effect. If its the water retention that has this effect, why don't you see the same joint lubricating properties being talked about with Dbol or cyp? When you read a profile on Deca it mentions pain free workouts due to lubricated joints. not the case with cyp, Drol, Dbol etc. I'm just curious at this point. Anybody know?
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Thank you guys. I guess it's not written in stone what joint assisting properties Deca actually has. I'll conduct my own experiment with the NPP /prop cycle. But I'm running EQ as well and if I'm not mistaken, EQ also has these properties. I'm gonna continue searching. Thank you again gentlemen.
Ive just dialled in some eq about 3wks back to run with this test deca cycle my elbows feel that of a 16 yr old and the busted rib pain as gone away altogether now so has far has i am concerned its all good for me, ohh by the way the research keeps my brain in good order so thats also good!!!
Ive just dialled in some eq about 3wks back to run with this test deca cycle my elbows feel that of a 16 yr old and the busted rib pain as gone away altogether now so has far has i am concerned its all good for me, ohh by the way the research keeps my brain in good order so thats also good!!!
ItsNoelGood question but I couldn't exactly find the answer I know what ur saying about dbol n test c and anadrol but the compounds in deca are different! That's where the secret is! I know I've read EQ can increase bone density! And when I popped my sterdum around 3 months ago I got better when I was on deca after like the 4th week I'm still kinda injured.... I got some NPP coming my way just to see if its the deca itself that's making me feel better see if I get on NPP if it does the same thing or if the deca just fixed my sterdum and shoulder!
That's how this all came up. I was wondering if the NPP would also help. I'm currently running it and having all kinds of problems with my shoulder.
tread-mShoulder as in rotator? If so Vike found me an exercize to strengthen it and in a few days its already helped the popping! Need to thank him for that btw....no I suspect if there is good short term benefit NPP may be less given whats been discussed here with the shorter ester etc. I will say when lifting heavy and I pull the deca from cycle I feel it in short order. Bones ache etc for a while while I reacclamate to it being gone. Seriously the anti-inflammitory properties may be some of the help but all the science behind the claims both support and debunk the help. For me its reall to some degree and thats all that matters. I've said so about placebo as well, I don't care how it occured, it occured...works for me.
Yes. I'm having a problem wit my shoulder (I'm assuming rotator). I posted in the "proper form" thread. I got a couple suggestions. I was waiting for a few more guys to chime in. Help me out with the strengthening exercise (shoulder)! I am fuckin lost on chest day. I'm really givin problems. Lots of pain. I'm 4 weeks in on NPP and I'm not really havin an easier time with joint pain.
Hah the raincoat flasher!!!! glad that is helping i will pm the info to nitti lets hope he can benifit also,
Sent mail bro,let me know!! if failed will resend
Spent two days on this before i put up a wrong or iffy answer, from what i can find it is the nandrolone (19 nor) part which forces estradiol into the joints and tendons which in turn creates the lubrication!! this is what i could dig up and in turn agrees with a conversation grrrl and myself had a couple of month back when i was saying to her that my broken rib was feeling better when my deca kicked in,there has been no evidence proven that deca helps with bone repair,it may be all in the mind but i swear i felt better.So unless anyone else can find something different do we all agree to go with ESTRADIOL,wheres tread he always shows up when i buy the beers!!!!!
Sorry i missed you guys last 2 nites really have researched hard for nittis answer.
I appreciate the effort bother! It's gonna be what it's gonna be.
tread-mYeah G and I and a couple others had a thread on this way back and really went after it. The thing is the actual joint benefit is proven and then contradicted time and again so is it actual help or masking is simply an argument. There are claims of its ability to help with bone density , collagen and claims it forces water to hold in connective tissue so those are things we discussed but at the end of the day not a lot of studies on it. It is to some degree an anti-inflamitory and that may actually have a lot to do with our relief from it. I suspect bone density help is not the answer given that would be a longer process and not beneficial in the shorter term but any combination of the other possible effects would certainly be of help. Thats all I have brother... I do love the fact that you went out of your way to research it though, run your daily limit on pornhub? JUST JOKING i don't even know what that means I've never been on that site!
5 free clips per day! Lol. I burned my limit for the day about 7am! XNXX.com. No limit bro! Right up your alley. Lol
Hey bro hope you are good,really hard to find much like you say! most of the "DECA MYTH" is exactly that "myth" users just have a deep love and belief in the stuff thinking it is like honey with magical properties! but again there are positive and negative feedback which at the end of the day leaves peeps scratching thier heads,it is going to be the old catch phraseagain here! if it feels good and you believe in it "just go ahead and do it" lol gonna hit you mail in about 1 hour bro some nice eye candy for big tread!!!!
tread-mWell see, thats how friends treat one another!
OE2000Yeah Nitti... PM GRRLL or Tread and tell em to get their asses in here and answer this question for us? You got me googling myself over here, oh and Im searching websites too ...LOL Good question brotha!
I'll try bro. Lol. Thanks
but seriously deca DOES increase collegen production..thats why power lifters love deca bub.
Please report back any findings, lol. sorry for stating the obvious
Grrrrl knows a lot about the chemistry. Tread might know too
Thanks bro. If I didn't make the asinine comment I made about the ester being responsible, this wouldn't have come up.lol.
Yea a real biochemist would e helpful
im not a biochemist...BUT i DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last nite bub..lol...sorry couldnt resist!
Lol
I suppose the collagen production is what they mean when they say "lube the joints". If it's just masking the pain and not really helping with anything other than pain, then it's more dangerous to someone with a joint injury. I'm glad you said post this.
That i just dont know has to be something to do with the molecular structure and the way the body reacts to it
If im not mistaken deca can increase collagen production so will eq i belive thats where the easing of joint pain comes from
Collegen production? Interesting. In that case would it be helpful with joint injuries?
Help them repair faster?
Ahh from what ive read deca juat masks the issue until your off pf it possibly make it worse cause you dont have pain so you go heavier and injure yourself further
Definitely good to know. This is what I was looking for. Thanks bro!