posted Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:43
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Dbol and liver toxicity
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Which is harder on your liver?
A daily dose spread out throughout the day
Or
Your daily dose taken all at once
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dontworryaboutit2322
7%bf hydrostatic test
187
5 11
Can't seem to gain another pound
licensed personal trainer
Diet is strict for mass building
Started 600mg test E 12 wks
50mg dbol for 4-5 wks
Is this your first cycle?
dontworryaboutit23Yes it is.
I know it's frowned upon to run 2 compounds and a slightly high dose of test for a first cycle
Note: I did run a PH cycle when I was 17(too young) but added 15 lbs weight and 50 pounds on bench and recovered great.
Ok bro, like you said typically you don't want to run 2 compounds in your first cycle. You'll get amazing growth off of the test alone.
Since you've already started. I'll say that I don't believe it makes that much difference as far as hepatoxicity goes if you split your dose. You are taking toxic methylated oral compounds, so taking smaller doses shouldn't make much difference. The reason some guys split doses is to keep hormone levels stable due to the half life of orals. Dbol for instance only has a 4-6 hour half life, so you would need to dose it 3-4 times per day to keep a stable amount in your body.
Are you running liver protection supps? At the absolute minimum you need to be running milk thistle, but actually you need more. I run liv 52 and milk thistle, but there are even better liver stacks out there. Look into tudca, liv 52, or essential forte n. This are the big guns and at least one of them should be a base of your protection stack. Good secondary supps are milk thistle, NAC, and red yeast rice.
dontworryaboutit23What do you think of 12.5mg dbol AM
25mg 2 hrs before workout (around 630pm)
And 12.5 before bed?
Is the pre work effect of dbol really all that? Or should I just do 4 even doses throughout the day?
I have 50mg tabs....
In my experience with Dbol, I prefer to run 10 mg when I wake up to get my levels up for the first feedings of the day. Then I take another 30-50 mg preworkout. I love the pump I get from some good Dbol before I lift. On off days I usually take 10 mg am and 10 mg pm. I really didn't see any difference doing this then when I took 3 evenly spaced doses. The pre workout effect is great though.
dontworryaboutit23Yeah man I started 4 days before with NAC
600, 600, 1200, 1800, and 2400mg at the start of my cycle and for the duration of the dbol cycle then ill taper it back down after 5 weeks is up
You can also take it Mon-Fri at whatever dose you choose & take Sat-Sun off the Dbol to give your liver a break during he weekend. Just a though
Just a thought, but i would think taking it all at once will be the worst thing to do, especially in high doses, would be a big shock to the liver