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Hi
before i ask my question i will give you a bit of my back ground
i started lifting weights when i was 18 just to stay healthy i guess,
i am now 43 and am quiet fit for my age as most people i know my age are well over weight and act like they are 70.
i decided to see if i could get more mass, so had a good look around plenty of forums to see what i could find out about steroids, i have now been taking Dbol only on a diamond cycle, i tripped my calories, tripped my water and protein and have put some mass on, i have only been on 15mg a day, as i wanted to build slowly but surely, as many people say 15mg to 20mg is enough for anyone.
i have also done pct and would say i have kept my gains what bit i got, id say about 1 stone put on, the thing is without the steroid, tripling my calories, water and protein, i am sure i would of gained weight anyway, i have lots more Dbol left and will start another cycle soon, my question is do you think what i am taking is real steroids or have i been ripped off, its from med-tech solutions 15mg tinny little tabs in pink and pure white tinny bottle, if you think they are real should i be increasing the dose or train different?
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don't mean to hijack thread, but can ANY positives come out of an oral-only cycle? mate of mine is set on dbol only (possibly with an AI) with PCT; he is not afraid of needles, simply can't get a hold of any test (in Aus). his train of thought is he'll make more gains than NOT being on it at the end of the day. I'm holding out for test, but hes determined to do this regardless.
If your friend likes to feel like shit,he doesnt mind losing his man hood and he doesnt mind seeing all the cool gains he received go away. Then there is nothing wrong with it. Tell him to get his ass on eroids and do some research.
yeh i thought as much. i think he knows he should have a test base, but impatience is getting the better of him.
+1 for being receptive to constructive criticism.
Thank you All for your advise.
I did look up about steriods b4 buying some, i did not do this lightly,i do know the risks.
Like the high blood pressure, i lowered mine firts for weeks beforehand by cutting out everthing that gives you high blood pressure eg; salt, beer. You know that kind of thing.
And my pressure is normal i had blood test last week everthing is good at doctors.
I dont like needles and my wife will defo have none in the house,because of the kids and i respect her wishes, so as it was tabs or noting,tabs it was.
I maybe should of researched more than i did.
Thank you to you all for your advise
+3 from me as well.
Begginners get reccomended test e 500 mg a week. split into two shots
You could use the d bol as well for up to 6 weeks. Up to 50mg a day, thats up to oyu.
PCT with clomid and nolva.
12 week cycle.
Ok thanks,
Seems like you have come to the right place. Time to get you on the right track:)
That sounds fantastic, thats what i would like,thanks
D-bol only???
I expect this from a 23 year old-----but not a 43 year old.
Did you do ANY research at all pror to taking this "d-bol" you have?
Get some Test....some needles.....and some courage, and do it right. Your body will thank you.
At this point, you're doing nothing but destroying any chance you have of building quality, lasting muscle.
Why should you not expect this from someone of my age?, none of us know anything in life till we have been shown by others.
Is that not how we have all leant since birth, is that not what joining a site lkie this is for to be given advice, we are never to old to learn something new, your advise and your help is all i ask. Thanks for your comment
Because I expect someone older and more mature to have sense enough not to just jump headfirst into the water without knowing how deep it is.
But you make up for it with your willingness to listen and learn, and that will carry you far----and trust me, if you add test to that d-bol, you're gains will skyrocket.
You are very right. I think that it is just accepted that a more mature (or older) individual would be more likely to reserch a chemical they were about to take. Younger individuals are more likely to take something impulsively without proper reserch:)
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Totally agree
juiceinatorWhy don't you look up a proper first cycle protocol? Test would be much better suited for you, as a first cycle and particularly at your age.
juiceinatorAt your age your testosterone levels are significantly lower than someone in their 20s (not promoting this by any means but recovering from an oral cycle will typically be easier for someone younger as opposed to older, barring they had no problems to begin with), and a test cycle will make you feel young again while giving you the boost in the gym and kitchen you're looking for
Can you explain more, is there any complication that my age would bring that i am unaware of?
1st off you worry about your diet. You need a ton of protein some will say calories matter I am not one if them. Its all about protein. Over 2 grams pr pound of body weight. Next you need to research AI's. AI's keep you from getting tits. Then You need to research PCT.Then you need to research injections sites.You need to research needle size and proper injection procedures(cleaning site,heating pin up with hair dryer things like that). You should have all of this down well enough you can teach a class on it. Then you can go out and get you some AAS(This requires research too unless you dont mind getting fucked by a source). If I was you I would start with Test E or C 500mg-600mg EW split in 2 injections for 12 weeks. You need to research and find out why that cycle is a good one for 1st time users and pill poppers like your self that havent used test. Never take a pill or inject anything unless you know what your doing. Take the time to protect yourself by doing the research. Research will save a ton of money,time, and your health.
juiceinatorSorry my reply is above
And by the way, to answer your question yes 15-20 mg is not enough. Usually 40-60mg daily (split dose) as a kick start for a cycle. You should be researching testosterone
Dbol only is a terrible move. You have a fear of needles?? Testosterone and testosterone only should have been your move. You're shutting down your HTPA for no good reason and every bit of weight you gain (which is water by the way) you'll lose a few weeks after the cycle. This board has a great over 40 club. Check out the TRT lounge and talk to some vets. They'll help you out. Do you have horrible headaches yet? BP elevated? Libido still existant? Hopefully you don't crash and burn after this run (most do with Dbol only). Read my brother! There is a lot you have to learn
Sorry.. Full of life...lol
Thanks i will check out the over 40s,thank you very much. As for your head ache question, most athlettes get head aches because the amont of extra water the body uses as you develope more muscle, so yes i did used to get dehidration head aches like a hangover every morning for the same reason as a hang over, the brain has less water in it than the rest of the body and beer drys you out and the brain drys first with there being less water to start, as you will know steriods makes the body take on a lot of water, including more water in and around the brain.
Giving me less headaches witch is great.
And i feel full of live.
Thank you your info was great
Well what I meant about the headaches and BP is Dbol has a tendency to raise BP and in turn cause headaches along with a long list of other issues. Dbol is also notorious for causing gynoclamastia. It can kill your sex drive if used alone. It WILL cause elevated estrodiol and in turn cause bloating (water retention). Elevated estro could be responsible for libido death as well. My suggestion is read through the stickies in the forums. Research the protocol for blood work and talkin to your doc. Research TRT and test only first cycles. Research everything. You won't be sorry. This board is great
Beat me here lmao! solid info bro.
Hey I learned from you guys! And yes I fast, I type/text like a 12 year old girl. Lol
CleyonAs a father of teenage girls... Damn, that's impressive! My three girls ran through almost 60,000 text messages in one month.
Lol thought you may be hitting 3 keys at once with them big meat hooks!