posted Tue, 05/28/2013 - 14:22
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+ 1 can test e injections cause increased liver enzymes and liver pain?
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Went to the doc with liver pain would it be cocontributed to test e? I've done some reading couldn't find a clear answer.
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HardBodEricYES it can, Damn why don't we Advise these guys to get checked, Your blood pressure, triglycerides, homocysteine levels, liver values, and kidney function should also be monitored regularly.
Eroids DOES have alot of badass men here, I know you all think your all indestructable , But when one of your organs shuts down on you your gonna quickly realize your only human. Get checked bro, DO NOT do 30 cycles and then get checked.
As stated above, EO can really cause some discomfort and pain in some people. If your gear has it, try switching to a brand that doesn't use it. Also make sure you include some high quality Omega 3s in your supp arsenal. 3 grams daily is good. But make sure it is 3 grams combined of the totals of EPA/DHA and not the overall capsule total. Some caps have something like a 1200mg total and only 240/120 of what you really need.
I was in the same boat as you a while back, I take liv 52 and lots of good quality milk thistle daily with a lot of water, kept having this weird pain!!! went to the doc as I thought it was liver, turns out after a lot of tests and ultrasounds etc I had a stomach ulcer!!! liver was fine so was kidneys!!! look into that!!
MakaveliCD7The answer is yes....injectable can cause liver stress and even damage over a long period of time with no breaks in-between to allow body to heal and return to normal....now the liver stress will b less than oral of course bc of the pass of GI tract into bloodstream but with long periods of time with cessation u will find ur levels elevated which if ignored can lead to fatty tumors and cysts on the liver itself....now if the liver is inflamed the yes u can experience radiating side pain....it is so important to check ur blood levels periodically on and off cycle so u can get to know ur body well....liver supports is always very wise....now we always want to scream and point at AAS for elevation in liver enzymes but keep in mind that others factors play a part such as nsaids, tylenol, anti e, AIs....even muscle stress can elevate....now in most cases these enzymes can b reversed with little to no damage but ignored can lead to complications and possibly permenant damage...always use a good liver support especially when on cycle bc we want a healthy lifestyle and not liver problems....we only have one so we got to take care of it...being wise and researching all compounds that u put in ur body whether AAS, prohormones, OTC...just be aware of the effects or sides it has or can on the body....the best thing u can do is research, define ur goals, and decide what's the best for ur body and come up with a full plan with pre-cycle, on cycle, and off-cycle....this way u know u got all ur bases covered....I hope this helped u out
I'll get some liv 52 an take with the milk thistle I'm already taking.
MakaveliCD7Liv52 is great...I run liver-aid...one thing that is best for liver support and protection is N-acetyl cysteine or NAC....it smells awful like rotten eggs....also known under the name of mucomyst....be sure that the support has that NAC in it
Withdrawl+1 for the NAC advice. Very overlooked supplement for liver health. It should definitely be included in a liver support program.
any supplement s u recommend
I use jarrow formulas liver pf 90 tabs per bottle it is one of the best I have used costs about 25.00 Use different test-e I like cottonseed, grapeseed oil
Yes I had blood work done.
ethyl oleate in test -e is what caused my liver pain. go off, your test-e. and pain will go in few days. take liver detoxification supplements.
Wardi77Liver pain? The liver has no pain receptors, therefore it cannot "feel pain" I am not trying to alarm you, but have you been tested for HepC? Increased enzymes and Abdominal pain are one of the most obvious signs of Hep C. I have posted a link below, check it out.
http://www.hepatitis-central.com/hcv/liver/pain.html
Wow thank u for that link Im going to go get check out. Because I used to be a everyday I.V. user when I was on meth and i wasn't the smartest with my points. I have a lot of the symptoms I've been going to the doctors for a while having them check my liver and stuff because of the pain and being fatigue all the time. The only time i gain weight is when Im on cycle other than that I have to force feed myself to keep the weight i have but. then again I have been doing pretty well about keeping most of the weight I gain on cycle. I have my blood work done 4 to 5 times a year do you think they would have caught it when it was sent to the lab or do they have to test for it specifically
Wardi77No problem bro, glad I could be of some help. There are two types of tests that detect antibodies in your blood, ELISA and RIBA. To determine if hepatitis C antibodies (HCAb or anti-HCV) are in your blood, doctors use a screening test called ELISA, which stands for Enzyme-Linked ImmunoSorbent Assay. There are many different ELISA tests, so doctors must use one specifically for hepatitis C. The ELISA test will search the blood sample for the hepatitis C antibody. If any are found, this means that you might have HCV infection. The ELISA test is very sensitive and picks up approximately 95% of people who have antibodies as positive. However, it's so sensitive that sometimes it over-identifies antibodies in your blood as geared towards hepatitis C even sometimes when they're not. This degree of sensitivity has its advantages. For instance, when the ELISA test is negative, you can feel very confident that you are hepatitis C free. However, if the ELISA test is positive, there is a small possibility that the result could be incorrect. This is called a "false-positive" result. False-positives are most likely considered in people who lack the risk factors for hepatitis C. When the ELISA test is weakly positive or when doctors think the test result doesn't match what they see clinically, a second test may be used to verify the original results. This test may be the RIBA test or another test, called HCV RNA, that directly measures the virus. The RIBA test (which stands for Recombinant ImmunoBlot Assay) uses a different approach to finding hepatitis C antibodies in your blood. If this test is positive, you probably have been infected with hepatitis C. It's important to realize that antibody tests usually can't distinguish between past or current infection. Doctors must use clinical information (such as medical history, signs and symptoms) or other tests to determine active or past infection.
You are full of advice I really appreciate you taking your time to write all this for me. I've been having these pains for about 10 or 11 years now. I've been in an out of doctor's office but no no one has ever thought about test me for hepatitis C. Do you know if it is sexually transmittable?
Wardi77Yes it definitely is transmittable by intercourse, but the chances are very low. Get tested bro and find out before you run into bigger problems, although I have read case studies where patients lived for 30 years without ever knowing they were infected by HepC and liver failure didnt occur until they were 70. A good clean diet and healthy lifestyle plays a factor as well, good luck to you and I hope you do not have hepC.
BigBmaj"many pain receptors reside in the capsule that surrounds the liver" (just googled it). I read the thing about liver not hurting, because mine actually hurts these days (probably gallbladder). But people do experience liver pain.
BigBmajTraining hard enough will give high ALT, ASH levels. Doctors were all freaked out about my high liver enzyme values at one point and I had just done legs super hard the day prior. It must have been that because I don't drink, wasn't taking any orals, and my whole body was sore.
That wasn't the first time I had heard of that happening either. I've since done some research on it.
But that doesn't answer the question as to why your liver "hurts". Are you sure its not your gallbladder?
Did doctor order blood work?
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