Bodybuilding competiiton and 2nd cycle.
So im 25 years old, 5'6/5'7 on a good day, and Ive had great experience with my very first cycle of Anabolics in general,i used **** Test e, i ran it for 10 weeks at 1.5 cc a week. and now i am currently sitting at 212lbs at 16% bf. i started at 202lbs and by the end i was well over 220,lost some of it.(i have up to date pics on my profile here). Now im 10 months out from a bodybuilding show, and as i am lining my ducks up in a row (food intake,sleep,routine,) on point, i want to go in to my 2nd cycle in another month,( since anabolics are just the icing on the cake) and i want to use test prop,npp,and mast prop,along with anavar or winny. with my pct. Now i created this post to see if some seasoned vets who have competed could tell me if this would be a good start for my 2nd cycle. if you looj at my pics, i am trying to achieve that classic mass look of the 70s..I do realize everyone has different genetic makeup therefore what dosages or types might work for you,may or may not work for me. But none the less i would like advice as i do not want to touch tren. I have never used it and i dont plan on it until i am older or i have reached my limit with other anabolics. any help would be great. Cheers.
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p.s. im going for theyre new (classic physique classes they have) no boardshorts..just short black spandex that say NPC on them, and classic poses. i love the big beasts,as i grew up with my 3 idols.(yes 3) Lee priest,Jay cutler, Kevin levrone.all diff physiques. but in all honesty i just like the way the old shool physiques just flowed and looked.even know it was before my time. so my training,nutrition..,and gear use i need to kind of shoot me in that right old school look.
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Well,i want to get below 10%,since my competition is not for another 10 months, i figured i'd cut down now, see how i look then grow in to the show. i do realize its mainly nutrition and cardio and my routine ive been using i have great results from. The research ive done would be that all 3 compunds are fast esters, and i heard npp is better then deca esp if you want to cut down becuase it gives you more of a fuller look and strength,test prop becuase its a short ester and as far as i know there is not any water weight? and mast prop becuase i heard that is a extremely great hardener. but ive also heard it should only be used pre competition or when your already 10% or below.. Otherwise i would just run another test e or cyp cycle with just one other compound to help preserve most of the muscle ive put on so far,with my good nutrition and cardio etc... so test and anavar then? just throw in 1 other compound?
First cycle was test e, second cycle you're proposing is prop / NPP / mast p / var or winny.
You're adding in three compounds you've never used before. Why do you need to do that? You're jumping too far ahead too quickly.
sorry i didnt hit reply,but i did just reply to you on my forum,lol............And on a side note, i used to think that more gear is better, but after hearing one of my bodybuilding idols speak (Lee priest) He said that less gear is better and that you either have the genetics or you dont, to compete, and guys today are taking alot more gear to play catch up with the guys who dont need as much gear and who can grow on lower doses (maybe because its pharmacy grade?} unless 99% of these guys are spewing lies on how much competitors actually take,lol. sorry different topic, but what im trying to say out of all of this is i only used 375mg of test for my first cycle and yes i guess throwing in 3 new compounds is alot. so yes maybe just stick with test and 1 new compund at a moderate dose.?
That's the plan I'd go with mate. I'd also agree with trimming down now to see where you're truly at. Don't go mad with it though, 10-11% will give you a perfectly good idea what you need to do before comp.
Like you suggested, I wouldn't run Masteron where you're at currently, one could argue the same point to a degree with var. Personally I don't see a lot of visual changes using var until BF is pretty low, but it does give me a solid strength boost. I'd say sticking to two compounds us your best best. Your call on which second compound that is. Be interesting to see what others suggest here.
Ultimately you can cut on anything, even classic bulking cycles like test / deca if your diet is right. You're taking a sensible approach by your response about gear and you've got a lot of time to play with. Make sure you preserve what you've built while trimming down with nutrition and I'm sure you'll be fine. Drop me a line if you need help.
I sent you a fr just now,and well i see,but say my diet is 90% spot on,isnt deca more for bulking? like i look at classic cycles set up in the 70s and when they were bulking it was the typical test/deca/dbol.and cutting was test,winny,and primo. (i heard its impossible to find legit primo anymore).its like eq disguised as primo.lol...ok but back on topic. you can cut on deca? what you just take caber or prami incase i start to lactate and take arimadex for water control... what would be your thoughts on my test long ester with npp (short ester). ive seen some good documents on people using npp to help from muscle wasting,well that or anavar. Im assuming you dont use winny?. i know that no steriod really helps you lose fat. you have to do that with nutrition and cardio etc. but i see that some anabolics just help push your body in the right direction. So now im ready for 1 new compound, but having trouble deciding what that should be, a gentleman who is local and who is going for his pro card,told me to KISS.(keep it simple stupid) lol...
And yes i am trying my best to take a sensible approach to gear. I hate pinning,but i suck it up and do it.and yes anabolics i am seeing turns me into superman but if i did not compete in bodybuilding or have a show lined up, i would be off gear all together,, the guy who did mentor me tought me, there is no point to cycle aas if your not competing,no need for a (concert,beach,club body) on gear..that is just hard work..(to each there own lol)......i might be 25, but i recently just got engaged and i have a very great corporate job so balancing those 2 big things in my life with a bodybuilding show is alot but def doable.. i do not know if i have the genetics for bodybulding,but we will see when i step on stage for my first show soon enough. Cheers.
Don't get stuck on the deca thing, I'm not recommending that just using it as an example! Cutting truly is entirely down to your diet and cardio regime.
I like the KISS philosophy too. You'll find a lot of eroids members work that way.
Winny is a big no for me these days. Too many injuries / surgeries / getting old, makes everything ache far too much. In many respects it's almost a void compound now.