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Big Al' 110
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Blood results, ADVICE needed

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So, at around 6 months after completing my last cycle which was 12 weeks of test cyp, 2 week break. and 4 week PCT of nolva and clomid 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 i still have major signs of low T which has really affected my quality of life and has me very depressed and fatigued everyday.

I then got my testosterone levels checked out last week and my blood results came in today showing a SERUM testosterone level of 356 ng/l which is at the LOW end of normal especially for my age. My doctor just said you are fine, but I am not. You guys are really only people who can give me the advice I need on what to do.

I REALLY need advice on how to get my body producing its natural testosterone back, because this LOW figure is not what i should be producing at the age of 26. I really am depressed out this.

Shall i do a new better cycle?
Should i take nolva/clomid/hcg? if so in what dosages and for how long?

My stats and previous cycle history are as follows:
age: 26
Body fat: 13%
Cycle history: Anavar, Pro Hormone & Test Cyp.

Thanks.

Big Al' 110's picture

I did not, which has proven to be a problem. But i used to feel way better, spontaneous erections, high sex drive and loads were way better.

Big Al' 110's picture

Man, solid advice i appreciate the response. Just went to to see the doctor to get all male hormones, include E2 assessed in case of other abnormalities. Shall make a new post and post the results to see any suggestions/advice. Cheers.

Big Al' 110's picture

But bro, I am worried that its been over 6 months since my PCT of nolva/clomid was said and done and my levels are still that low, especially for my age.
So, I am going to see the doc' tomorrow to get a full blood analysis such as FSH, LH. E2 and free test, hopefully they are within range then i would seek advice on hear on what to do, because they doc' thinks everything is normal. i don't think it is, i feel dead.

crazymofo's picture

What are your LH, FSH and E2 numbers at?

tzelukie's picture

Your 26 friend, listen to Flash, you will come around, everyone acts differently when restarting the system, it will suck for a few but will pay in spades when you come back to normal. Patients. Remember to get bloods after the pct and post em up.

Big Al' 110's picture

Yes but if I do PCT my test will rise, but will this figure when i do bloods say after 2 months of PCT be permanent? how do i know it will not just go back to how it is now, which is 360 ng/dl?

TheFlash85's picture

id run another pct bro, nolva and clomid, pharma grade only. clomid-100,50,50,50,- nolva - 40,20,20,20,10 (5 week nolva) you can add in daa daily, good multivitamin, extra zinc and vitamin d, you can get a pre workout to help lethargy, get bloods after, you should be ok.

Big Al' 110's picture

This looks to be a good plan of action. My question is, if i do a blood test after im sure the test levels will be higher, but for how long would this hpta restart last?

would my then slowly begin to fall back to 361 ng/dl or would be the test level be permanent?
I have read so many things, I am so confused, please anyone?

chemari's picture

Hi big,

such a difficult question you're making...

PCT will restart your axis and, in general, your test level will be slightly higher than baseline while on PCT. Then, after you discontinue PCT, (again, in general), your test level will come to your baseline.

So, if you don't know what your baseline is, you maybe will drop to 361 or even lower, or stay at higher levels.

My advise is repeat PCT, add some ancillaries as zinc, vit D3, DAA etc...

Then, after that, get your blood work ... say in two/three weeks after pct.

If your levels are good, you're done. Otherwise, take those numbers as your baseline and you'll need to go to a doctor for qualifying for TRT.

good luck

peace

PIN_CUSHION's picture

x2

Big Al' 110's picture

Would it be necessary to include HCG as part of this PCT, my boys are still noticeably small?

Say HCG 200 IU EOD for 16 days
Nolvadex at 20mg for 45 days
Clomid at 100mg for 30 days

growthman's picture

Id keep going with test myself. Im the same way bro off gear sucks mentally

rolltide3's picture

Somebody got some baby powder bout to bitch slap this fool neg one

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Wow how did I miss this? Goes against everything we preach here man.

-1

crazymofo's picture

Wow. Horrible stupid dangerous advic. I think you might be my first ever neg.

-1 to you sir. Poor form indeed.

tzelukie's picture

Bad advice dude! You need a glass of shut the hell up... That is not how we do things here at Eroids. We do it correct with safety first ALWAYS. And we teach time on+pct=time off. Unless there is a medical condition that requires TRT it is always better to let the body natualize again...Read about it. Learn it. Love it. Preach it or go elswhere!

TheFlash85's picture

thats why your a troll who will be ban if you keep posting your bs.

Karius's picture

Different people react to PCT and Testosterone differently.

Some people have a receptive body where slight encouragement to restart endogenous hormones is all that's needed. Others take longer.

From what you say - it would be prudent to

a) check baseline and supporting hormonal panel
b) engage on a PCT recovery schedule for 4-6 weeks ensuring you keep estrogen low and allow the body to recover endogenous testosterone.
c)HcG in smaller amounts EOD has been shown to assist in recovery with/alongside Clomit but above all it may be a waiting game.