Walk away from AAS while you still can. Make no mistake as soon you pin you will have made a deal with the devil. Do not consider this again until you are 40. Trust me when I say at 40 you will understand.
This is great advice. I aimed for 1.5xbodyweight bench, 2x squat 2.5 x bodyweight on deadlifts. Did this naturally. Would've won my weight group at the British drug free power association at 82.5kg at 5ft 7. Then introduced to Anavar and liked the effects, moved onto test etc. Can I lift more? Yes. Size now around 17 stone. Can I lift more than the times bodyweight target, Yes. Has it cost me far too much in money, yes. If I had it to do again I would have trained with all I could til my test lowered naturally, and then seen a doctor. I'm basically now an addict and physically I cannot come off without it causing heath issues. If you must do aas please do short cycles, don't blast and cruise
At first injections every week seem "cool". You think its cool and only about getting big..then a few years later (especially when you get in your 30's..get married..not trying to impress anyone anymore)..injection time comes up and you think "FUCK! IM SICK OF THIS SHIT!"
So true! Not even the pain, pip or anything, just the sheer process of it. 37 now and if I could come off i would. Even daily supplements etc are a chore. Since married and had my daughter (luckily since I didn't come off in years), it's just an annoyance.
TRT pinning gets old so fast. It's actually quite depressing knowing that I'll be doing this for many decades to come. No one wants to consider that when they start. It's all "I get to be on juice 24/7 and I'll be huge." Little do they know you don't get "huge" off of TRT doses and they have to pin 1-2 times a week for the rest of their life. Plus you have to deal with all the potential sides that come with it (acne, high BP, cholesterol, etc.). People need to think long and hard before jumping on this train.
Not too mention keeping your damn estrogen levels in check. I've ran the same dose of 200mg testC a week for 4 years and for 3 or 4 months I dont have any high estro sides. Just a couple weeks ago I started getting the sides..itchy puffy nips..slight bloat..irritability..sluggish. All the fun stuff. Same dose..same brand..estrogen levels decide to spike. Had some exemestane on hand..every thing slowly fell back into place. Its like Im always making sure everything is level in my body..since my body doesnt do it for me any longer.
I have to take 6.25 mg of aromasin a day to keep mine in check. I cycled when I was younger and never had any estro issues, even on higher doses, but it all changed when I got older.
Again, dealing with the pinning and the sides are no only a pain, but they can be damaging to your health. This always concerns me. You really have to keep on top of things.
Neither. I can say this...if I wasn't such a shortsided dipshit when I was younger and had a place like this to research, I wouldn't be in the lifelong commitment of trt I am now in. Yes...I would do it different! I'm about to be 36 and the honest to god truth is if I could do it over...I wouldn't have even started at this age. I thought I was in love with the gear and being "big". What I now understand is Im in love with lifting. The actual process of it. I am not in love with fucking injections any longer. But guess what...too bad now. Dont be in the too bad croud. You will learn there is nothing to prove and being huge...unless you're competing...gets you some admiration yea...but it all means shit. All that being said...if you wait till you have exhausted every angle ie. diet, routines etc. and still have a decision to take the plunge...if done properly and with maturity it is relatively safe. Maturity is key! If you think you're ready...youre not. Treat it like holding your breath under water...when you absolutely have to come up for air...that's when you should make a decision...imo at least
Listen, your question made us nervous but you appear to have the right attitude about it which is a good thing. Play it safe and smart. It's a marathon not a sprint.
Neither. ..
Just eat and train, then may be worry about that when your in your fourties.
Blast and cruise at your age is for lazy people that can't be fucked to run a pct and off cycle.
Trt should never be an option unless absolutely necessary. ...trust me
Because it seems a bit of a premeditated question, mate. In other words, it's something that you were already considering, and at your age, and unless you've already been diagnosed by a doctor as needing trt, or, you just haven't done enough research on the subject to consider it, then everyone is just trying to get you to understand that it's a bad idea.
Because no one believes you are asking out of curiosity so to have a 25 yo (but probably younger) ask these type of questions leads us to believe you are doing it or planning to do it.
because look at your weight and age ???? you really think AAS is going to help... go to the grocery store and learn how to eat and gain weight that way before you start this
Walk away from AAS while you still can. Make no mistake as soon you pin you will have made a deal with the devil. Do not consider this again until you are 40. Trust me when I say at 40 you will understand.
Tron"A deal with the devil"
Couldn't put it any better way.
This is great advice. I aimed for 1.5xbodyweight bench, 2x squat 2.5 x bodyweight on deadlifts. Did this naturally. Would've won my weight group at the British drug free power association at 82.5kg at 5ft 7. Then introduced to Anavar and liked the effects, moved onto test etc. Can I lift more? Yes. Size now around 17 stone. Can I lift more than the times bodyweight target, Yes. Has it cost me far too much in money, yes. If I had it to do again I would have trained with all I could til my test lowered naturally, and then seen a doctor. I'm basically now an addict and physically I cannot come off without it causing heath issues. If you must do aas please do short cycles, don't blast and cruise
TronAt first injections every week seem "cool". You think its cool and only about getting big..then a few years later (especially when you get in your 30's..get married..not trying to impress anyone anymore)..injection time comes up and you think "FUCK! IM SICK OF THIS SHIT!"
So true! Not even the pain, pip or anything, just the sheer process of it. 37 now and if I could come off i would. Even daily supplements etc are a chore. Since married and had my daughter (luckily since I didn't come off in years), it's just an annoyance.
Damn right bro!
Imagine how i feel after 35yrs of this shit............... +3 good answer
Tron35 years brother...damn. 4 years and im already tired of it..gotta do what we gotta do though.
TRT pinning gets old so fast. It's actually quite depressing knowing that I'll be doing this for many decades to come. No one wants to consider that when they start. It's all "I get to be on juice 24/7 and I'll be huge." Little do they know you don't get "huge" off of TRT doses and they have to pin 1-2 times a week for the rest of their life. Plus you have to deal with all the potential sides that come with it (acne, high BP, cholesterol, etc.). People need to think long and hard before jumping on this train.
TronNot too mention keeping your damn estrogen levels in check. I've ran the same dose of 200mg testC a week for 4 years and for 3 or 4 months I dont have any high estro sides. Just a couple weeks ago I started getting the sides..itchy puffy nips..slight bloat..irritability..sluggish. All the fun stuff. Same dose..same brand..estrogen levels decide to spike. Had some exemestane on hand..every thing slowly fell back into place. Its like Im always making sure everything is level in my body..since my body doesnt do it for me any longer.
I have to take 6.25 mg of aromasin a day to keep mine in check. I cycled when I was younger and never had any estro issues, even on higher doses, but it all changed when I got older.
Again, dealing with the pinning and the sides are no only a pain, but they can be damaging to your health. This always concerns me. You really have to keep on top of things.
Yeah... its not the "high life" fantasy Body-builder lifestyle that these youngsters think it is........ its hard work and not for the lazy minded.
TRT is a full-time job.
That sums it up perfectly.
Tx for all the replies guys tx for the info good stuff
Neither. I can say this...if I wasn't such a shortsided dipshit when I was younger and had a place like this to research, I wouldn't be in the lifelong commitment of trt I am now in. Yes...I would do it different! I'm about to be 36 and the honest to god truth is if I could do it over...I wouldn't have even started at this age. I thought I was in love with the gear and being "big". What I now understand is Im in love with lifting. The actual process of it. I am not in love with fucking injections any longer. But guess what...too bad now. Dont be in the too bad croud. You will learn there is nothing to prove and being huge...unless you're competing...gets you some admiration yea...but it all means shit. All that being said...if you wait till you have exhausted every angle ie. diet, routines etc. and still have a decision to take the plunge...if done properly and with maturity it is relatively safe. Maturity is key! If you think you're ready...youre not. Treat it like holding your breath under water...when you absolutely have to come up for air...that's when you should make a decision...imo at least
Amen to that.
LOL
Oh ok guys tx wasnt planning on doing it just looking up info!!
Listen, your question made us nervous but you appear to have the right attitude about it which is a good thing. Play it safe and smart. It's a marathon not a sprint.
Neither. ..
Just eat and train, then may be worry about that when your in your fourties.
Blast and cruise at your age is for lazy people that can't be fucked to run a pct and off cycle.
Trt should never be an option unless absolutely necessary. ...trust me
at your age and stats this should not even be a question.....
Just asling to get info obout the topic!! Sry about the other question i posted byt i dont see why this question would be wrong to ask!?
Because it seems a bit of a premeditated question, mate. In other words, it's something that you were already considering, and at your age, and unless you've already been diagnosed by a doctor as needing trt, or, you just haven't done enough research on the subject to consider it, then everyone is just trying to get you to understand that it's a bad idea.
Because no one believes you are asking out of curiosity so to have a 25 yo (but probably younger) ask these type of questions leads us to believe you are doing it or planning to do it.
because look at your weight and age ???? you really think AAS is going to help... go to the grocery store and learn how to eat and gain weight that way before you start this
Why you asking this?
Stats
Age: 25
Height: 5'4"
Weight: 147
BF: 13%
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