+ 7 Ways to avoid PIP
Okay..not going into the full report of what causes PIP. The google bar will take you to those discussions.
First way to avoid PIP is research and being prepared. Some gear has very high ratings but will still have some pip.
Many times it simply has to do with how your body reacts and not necessarily the gear. Other times its ALL user error.
So lets talk basics.
Heating gear is by far the easiest and most common way to avoid pip. I always heat all my oils.
Take a double shot glass or coffee cup, get tap water hot, and put your vials into the cup. Let that water run slowly into that cup at least 5 minutes.
Hot shower during the time helps because it gets muscles relaxed and blood flowing. Dry vial and alcohol swab prior to pulling out the amount needed.
Heated oil flows easily into the muscle and since its thinner it disperses rather than sits as a chemical marble in your muscles...causing pain.
Now, pin sizes has been discussed many times as well.
23 x 1.5 for glutes and 25 x 1 for quads, delts, etc. But I'm constantly getting PM about pip thru a 25 x 1.
As I question the person, they describe the error. Whether its a 23 to the glutes or a 25 to the quads, the biggest problem is how hard you push that plunger which results in the above mentioned marble of oil.
A 25 is a tiny pin so it forces you to pin slower. Simply pinning any oil slower typically erases all pain.
But many get that 25 and then push the plunger HARDER. Slow the roll guys/girls!
On a 23 you should be slower than 30 seconds per cc.
25 is no different and since the 25 is used for most pip gear (props) take extra time.
As your pushing harder on the plunger and making that marble you're also shaking and making that pin move.
As that pin moves nicking veins and tapping nerves, here comes your pip oil to really piss them off.
I like hitting the 25 at 1 minute per cc. NOW, since some oils just simply hurt, so there's also a method as BLENDING.
Its easier to do when you're better skilled with pins and rotation but by second/third cycle you're doing prop anyways.
And no its not only prop that has PIP!
Many of the newer high MG steroids have more pip because there's more of that parent hormone in the muscle at one time to cause irritation.SO...blending is nothing more than getting out the pencil and paper and doing basic math.
Say you're doing test/eq and a prop that has pip. We know that just the test eq we typically pin biweekly, because the long esters.
But were here to avoid PIP.
So if our cycle is 600/600, how bout taking our 1cc of PIP prop and adding half cc of EQ.
The added lil oil helps relieve the irritation know as PIP. Some sources offer sterilized oil specifically for this purpose. It adds a lil oil without messing with math or effecting weekly dosages.
HOWEVER, research oil and how it effects your body in high doses!
And all ya need to do is keep your weekly dose at 600mg eq. And if it comes out mathematically that blending causes the EQ to be +/- 50mg a week, its not a huge fluctuation.
Typically the prop is 4 weeks in front of cycle so after you are positively doing a flat 600/wk.
Reading the labels of your gear is also a key to success or less pain.
Some oils regardless of preparation by heating and pin size just will NOT agree with your body.
If by chance eo hurts and grapeseed is pip free for your body, then use common sence.
Trial and error as well as just Man The Fk Up is your keys to success.
You have to keep in mind that in reality you're shoving a steel nail into yourself and forcing in a foreign substance.
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@ Alpha , I askedv the question a couple days ago cuz I didn['t see a sticky on it . It was the one and only question that I have posted . Im just starting to use ASS so I read a lot of what You , Fast ,Viking Ect. post and dont comment , like I said Im learning .Wtf is the purpose of this site if people like yourself have all this knowledge and instead of helping a mofo out I gotta here about being a pussy and cryin.Trust , I read some of the retarted shit some of these kids post that are 17 and ready to shoot Tren in their stomach, I laugh and keep it movin so I can learn some shit. That being said not only was I rubbing the shit in , I had my Lady walking on my ass thinking that the issue was not working it in properly. I posted , Fast and others responded and I havent had pain since. People were talkin a little shit and I let it fly ,but weather you like it or not , if your reading q&a's and I know you know the correct answer like you posted , why dont you post that intead of the prior comment . Now can I have my fuckin Single Karma point back for fucks sake
Probably not. You called him fuckin stupid, a pussy and a troll. The rules pretty much say you can't start shit like that. And in my opinion he was trying to be humorous. I get pip like a motherfucker, to the point where I can only get .5cc in and it still comes. But I thought his comment was funny. Trying to be impartial here, but lighten up. Like when people freak out when I make a racist joke and they get mad and call me a racist. It's friggin humor, lighten up, I'm not a racist.
Im not racist either. I hate everyone equally. Lol!
Yes...when pip hits it can be a mofokka. Try blending when ya can.
I have electric stove top, I flip it on high for 5 or ten seconds and turn it back off, touch it with my hand for temp and if i can leave my finger there for awhile without getting to hot I place my vial there for about 2 minutes and it heats up just right for inject and no pip. Works like a charm. But then again you have to consider the oil used and the potency of what your injecting to. But heating up always lessens the pip IMHO
Nice post Alpha but your fukin stupid . If there is something that can be done to prevent my ass from hurting everytime I get in my truck or roll over on my back for your old lady to ride me then I would like to hear about it . I was wondering what troll alert meant till now pussy
Here Read this since your complaining so much about your ass hurting like a girl! Just a lil somthing you might like.
Hella true! I sweat like mofo on good gear...the whole cycle
Lol hell ill be watching tv and sweat lol. Fuck I'm sweatin right now
AAt night the Gf is freezin, pitties chattering teeth and windows open with fan on. Haaa!
Someone mentioned that a bath ,a bubble bath , while drifting away to the sweet sound of Either Mike Bolton or Sade' helps pip by leaps and bounds . Is that true??
Nice post fast, but really they just need to stop being pussies! Imo
So very true! All the time folks ask about my tatts and "do they hurt?". I just lol and keep walkin
Nice I need to try the cup idea for heating vials, I typically used a hair dryer. I might add I've just started trying 27ga and it's not that slow and I def noticed a decrease in pip.
Hairdryer is perfectly good! Warm but not enough to burn tissues. And those small pins sure help.
Once I got my syringe all ready I run it under hot water for about 20-30 seconds
With cap on and slow hot water on barrel only....yup. Me too! That long sit in cup while water constantly slow running has been Nice! Its just about body temp when in syringe.
I was always worried about the water drizzling onto the pin even with the cap on.. Either way heat def helps.. I like to put a hot wash rag or heating pad on the muscle too
I use a heating pad, has 3 settings, I use the lowest. Wrap around the vial for a few minutes then roll the vial between my hands for about 20 seconds or so. After drawing it in, wrap the syringe in the pad for a few minutes.
I use a 25. Shaking less due to just getting use to it, but def have to push less hard to shake less.
Hot pad is a definite bonus! And not rubbing.