+ 16 Steroids are NOT for GETTING into shape
I have been looking through the cycle logs lately and one of the recurring goals I see is something like “I want to drop x amount of fat and get back into shape”. Many guys are proposing these cycles to get back into shape after a long layoff due to surgery or an accident that kept them out the gym or they are just sick of being lazy and are now determined to run a cycle to get them back into shape. I applaud everyone for wanting to get back into shape, that is the first step, but DO NOT use the steroids as a tool to get you back into shape. There is no need for it. Steroids should only be used as a tool for you to use to get to that next level AFTER you are in shape. “Getting into shape” is not accomplished by using steroids. It is accomplished by proper diet and training. There is a wealth of info and knowledgeable vets on EROIDS to get you into the best shape of your life without even touching any drugs. Use that info first and when you get into the best shape of your life, then you are ready for a cycle.
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In my day people got into using Gear because they wanted to get big and strong, become that menacing looking MF'er walking down the street!
This needs a bump!
RustyhookerEspecially with many medical issues to review
High five!
AnonThis title should really land close to home. Keep working!
Thank you. I started my journey at 295 18months ago and through being mindful logging my food, started training a little bit at a time just getting a routine going. Never waiting till I'm starving to eat, eating breakfast and I stopped eating super late. I'd developed so many bad habits over the years hurting myself and after having my kids I had a major wake up call. I wasn't only hurting myself. I lost about 75-80lbs and my doctor suggested TRT I started that and lost another 10lbs and felt all around better. Then I got carried away using way to much gear trying to speed up the process only to find out I don't need it. My TRT and diet and training and good to go. Maybe in the future I may decide to use AAs but not until I'm already in primo shape and informed enough to use them safely
Reach yur baseline potential first then after ya plateau take the plunge - but only until you consume enough research research research!!! So many want to cut corners without putting in the time. SMH.
That's human nature
Area-1255...Or another way to say it, if you are some skinny little twig who expects to transform into Juggernaut overnight, with steroids, then STEROIDS AIN'T FO' YOU!
johnny1024If you cant get into good shape natural where it is obvious that you spend hours in the gym regularly then roids will be a disapointment...so many guys i met would do a few pushups and dips for a month and then all the sudden they wanna get on a cycle....i have seen people on juice that look as if yeah they probobly work out a bit..i think if your on juice is should be obvious thst your jacked...just my two cents
Round is a shape
There for getting swole..........
In the eye's of the yound one's.......
Good read brother.....
Fucking pussies these days! you know how many guys ive met lately who havent even lifted yet are now in the gym daily who started their first cycles, and that first cycle is a gram of test with a gram of tren and fkn dbol daily, no foundation no fkn clue, i had a go at some dim wit a few weeks back coz he actually stated and i quote " i just pop anavar everyday now year round coz you get the muscle benefits and its good for your liver" fkn cunt! The guy who sells to him had dbol, adrol or var and stated var is better for your liver than dbol/ drol and he took it as its good for your liver ffs! 20 yrs from now there will be a tonne ofvthese fucks dead alongside zzyz or who ever the fuck its pathetic, oh ive been outta the gym 6 months, i need 5 compounds and some gh to get back my abs man. Fucking mouths on twigs.
20 years from now? I think you're being optimistic with that time frame.
Exactly!
If you've been at a certain level it is quite easy to get back to your old state after a longer off time.
It will look like as if you're actually on steroids because there will be such a severe body recomposition.
So in that case, AAS will be kind of a waste. Rather wait a couple of weeks and as soon as you're old level, than you can consider of getting into a cycle.
AnonThere's a lot of good guys we could help instead of just ripping on them as being the 'noobs'. The rookies and guys wanting shortcuts are annoying as shit, but at the same time most of us can relate to the cause for their actions. The lack of self-esteem, the years of being either the scrawny kid or the bullied fat kid, to the point in which they don't see success as an option for them by the 'natural' route. The media has greatly exaggerated and glamorized their effects while demonizing steroids at the same time. For these guys with good intentions just being tired of feeling like shit, it seems like the quick fix. I think they only real way of fixing the 'noobs' is addressing the issues and showing them the guys who actually changed naturally. I know 3/4 of people in my local gyms are on gear and the fast gains are very lucrative to someone who's never saw success in their diet efforts.
The largest problem with steroids for these people who truly have the desire to change and are discourage (asides from endocrine impact from ignorance) is that they're still dieting and training ineffectively and after taking the plunge to those media-glamorized miracle steroids and seeing nothing happen, it demolishes the last bit of hope they have. People don't realize the detrimental impact that using steroids to 'get in shape' have on the user when they take that plunge and see no effect, that shit is just mentally crippling and people give up all effort usually. Yeah, it's easy to say they're just lazy or impatient, but coming from a guy who grew up the fat kid around the skinny or built friends who were that way without effort, you begin to believe "i'll just never look like them".
Being quick to rip these dudes when many have good intentions is only distancing those of us deep into the sport and makes us even more unapproachable. Yeah there's a lot of douche bag guys who just want to be "jacked", but we're ignoring the guys who have genuinely been struggling when all they need is some guidance instead of JUST the generic, "diet and train for X years, come back later."
Eloquently made point.
This is so topical I thought it was a new post. Guess some things never change!
Thanks for this reminder, I'll be sure to wait at least 6-12 months before venturing in another cycle now.
I had surgery in january, missed 12 weeks. Stockpiled some gear. Might kick off cycle in july. Even after surgery etc, you need to get your base back first. I feel like im about back to pre-surgery conditioning finally.
I had surgury once and was out of the gym for about 4 months. Stuck on the couch for most of that time. Had a huge change in body composition. My weight was about the same but I lost about 20lbs of muscle and replaced it with 20lbs of fat. Figured I lost years worth of work in the gym and was very discouraged but I got back in the gym and about 4 months later I was right were I left off. So those years worth of lost muscle I was able to put back on just with training and diet and no drugs. I have to attribute it to muscle memory, which I think to many people underestimate the power of. It is better than any AAS when coming back from extended layoff due to injury or surgery.
Rustyhookerhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/test-e-anavar-cy...
Like this? Where skinny dude gets spoofed after folks already cited food
Must be that time of year. Everybody thinking they can run a quick fix cycle to get buffed up for summer when the rest of they year they eat and train like crap.
RustyhookerHis diets on point. 2900 calories even at 5-9 & 175. Lol
BUMP
Been seeing to much of this lately.
I've no idea what you could possibly be referring to.......
Funny I hear this so often from my friends "I want to get ripped and big". Haha +1
9/10 times their eyes glaze over when I mention diet and the other 1/10 have already lost interest in healthy living after the sentence is said.
Very helpful, thanks mate
Plenty of guys out there that are like yo can I just do a cycle of dboll for a month? Will that work? No clue of the hard work and time to put in and that aas needs to cycled and when you try to explain it they look at you like your crazy...the response I love the best is I dont want to inject anything, can't I just do dbol...lmbo..whatever bro!
RustycanI'm definitely agree that the juice is abused in this way and that mythical powers are presumed from its use. We have all been stereotyped by some punk-ass wanna be who automatically assumes that any beefed up dude is "on the juice "......, wait for it! and then comes " if I was on what he was on I could look like that too. Bullshit!!!! Never mind the hours in the gym, the face shoveling of food several times a day, proper rest and so forth. Some uneducated folk think that all it takes is the shit and anybody can look like that. Not the case at all!!!! Good post bro!
^ THIS!!!
I only just started my 1st cycle two days ago and am going into this not expecting ridiculous gains. I know it'll take a long time to reach my goals even with aas. There are plenty of guys out there that look absolutely amazing and people think that if they take aas they will look like that too..lol, they would be lucky to look half as good.
RustycanExactly my point bro! I like your attitude coming into this I think you're approaching this correctly and have things planned out.
Take a peek at my profile images, and when they were taken. I am into my 2nd cycle, was tempted, very tempted to do more, as I saw a big change when using gear. FORGETTING that I was in the gym 6 days a week, 2 hours a day and near on killing myself. Once you are there or thereabouts, then of course, move onto sculpturing your shape, and using gear can accentuate that for you.
Diet, TRAIN HARD, try and rest (not easy for most of us, sleep is a luxury enjoyed by a few)
Do not think that gear WON'T help you it will, without doubt, but a lot of that is mindset, and the absolute thrill feeling of "Superman" when on a cycle... Believe me, I know ;-)
Damn! impressive progress bro.. keep that shit up! 6 days a week at 2hrs a session is what i was doing before i started my cycle. I did not see any noticeable change in my physique in the last 3-4 months training that many days at that many hours with the programing i had set up. Time for some tweaks! am now doing 4 days training with 4 days of fasted cardio in the morning. Much less volume and exercise selection and more focus on intensity.. taking everything to failure and then beyond.. then one more push, one more, one more.. can't move 2 inches. DONE!
Now THAT is impressive. Tweaking your training mid cycle take balls, as you know what you USED to gain, well done ;-)
Tell me more of your program, as I think I'd like to mix my shit up too.. Hey, just seen a pic of me that someone else took, of my friend and I, you know the friend, the one who you always look at and think they are MASIVE compared to you? Well, pictures don't lie, and I am a lot bigger than him.. Took someone else pic for me to see that... You been there?
Training to failure is something I've been doing with the lads I train with.. DESTROYS me.. feels good too!!
These changes were made before cycle started. not mid cycle. Haha yeah I know what you are talking about.. the guy you thought looks awesome but is now nothing compared to you lol. FR sent
BuckyDentureI feel like steroids were all I could do to get in shape.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/before-and-after-testosterone-injections-and-...
Good for you man, what a transformation! As you well know like Mak said this thread was intended for the person that doesn't have a pre-existing condition as your self. Guys that think shooting gear will solve all their problems, sure they will get gains anyone would, but imagine if they were in shape prior to then started to put the armor on. Guys are trying to make sure and educate the younger ones before they cause them selves some major problems. As for yourself I'm sure you took the right approach and feel like a different man, you look it for sure. I'd be walking around with that chest out my man. Hard work and dedication!
BuckyDentureThank you and I agree fully, I just always like to remind everyone that in this world different strokes for different folks is what its all about.
But yes a young kid who is otherwise healthy has no business jumping on roids.
And another PS, I didnt just go down to Mexico and pick up some test because I saw it. I had been researching it and other compounds for a year before I made the move .
I'm sure you took the right approach. I'll bet that was a trip picking it up in Mexico, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'd end up dealing with cartels or something, lol
BuckyDentureoh its legal to buy there. You buy it straight at the pharmacia
Nice, I know when I went there for my honeymoon, it was no problem getting a hold of "herb" at the time I was't even messing with roids.
myself and my woman mwagsgurly i think are both exceptions to this, we both have health issues, i have had multiple surgeries, brain and spinal, she has been through hell and back, cancer and complications from surgeries and cancer treatments. AAS is used as a quality of life and to get in and stay in shape. but again the exception to the rule.
goes to show you can't know what's going on in the inside of a person's life by looking on the outside, happy to hear you and your lady fought your way back to health bro.
now I'm going to chime in with the exception to this rule. just follow me on this brother, I agree with 90% of this, the exception being your middle age man who is testosterone deficient. yes all the anabolic, androgenic derivatives of this hormone is not a wise choice to use while trying to get fit, however a man deficient in testosterone will improve his quality of life and chances of getting and staying fit by normalizing this deficiency. remember brother not everyone using aas are doing so for bodybuilding purposes.
noob941yes sm75 and BD i suffered a severe tesicular trauma in my late 20s riding bmx...lost the ability to reproduce and suffered from severe low -t..like count around 100....after starting a trt dose in june 2013, the quality of life overall has improved to the point that it is almost miraculous. I am not now nor will i ever be a full on body builder i work out a cpl timews a week and am active outdoors but test has not only given me my life back i would say it has given me a second chance at finishing my 20s and 30s lol...STAY STRONG
BuckyDentureI thought I was going to come in here and be the outcast. Im glad to see you say this because this is my exact scenario. At age 42 after being sick with an infection/virus for 10 years it was virtually impossible to get my body back in to any kind of reasonable shape. Without test it just would not have happened.
way to go Bucky, that's a long time to be feeling sick, congratulations on your dedication and health brother.
Good point, there is always an exception to the rule. TRT definitely is a special case where it is actually medically needed in order to just function like a normal man. I was just recently put on TRT myself. I guess the point that I was trying to get across is that anyone with normal T levels should not be using AAS to get into shape unless it is medically needed.
"docturate in hamster fucking " LMAO
priceless!
I need to get in shape ... was thinking about a tidy stack of DNP/ T3/ clen/ EPA/ and some lasix amps to shift water...... my diet will consist of pizza MsDs and beer...... training will be getting offf the sofa to turn the telly over instead of using the remotes, this will be classed as super -sets when i have the DVD running also!
Dont come in here telling me i know shit!.. i have a docturate in hamster fucking and i will flare off at you fat-ass vets on here... basically i know what i am doing so yous can all fuck off with flaming me or i send my mommy who loves me and never says NO to come and kick yo muffafuhkkas in ze bollucks.