+ 1 Noobie PIP need some advice
I am a newb to running any AAS. The cycle I am going with is super simple 300mg test e for twelve weeks (mon and thurs 150mg inject). Im using a 25g 1 inch syringe and injecting .5ML of a 300mg/10ml concentration of Test E into my vent glute. It was the first time I've ever done this so I was shaking like a MF'er and was honestly nauseous doing it Lmao!!. I. was very sterile. I washed my hands thoroughly. Put my gear in some shallow warm water to warm the oil up(temp of water was 96 ish). I also drew with a different needle and swapped to do the actual injection. The entire time I rested the alc pad on top of the rubber stopper, waited for the alc to evaporate on the stopper before I drew btw. Washed hands again before injection, swabbed the site and stuck it in slowly. Now I made the mistake of taking my hand off the syringe and no bullshit it rotated in the fucking muscle. like almost spun around lol.i then injected but I felt I went way too fast like under 10 seconds or so then pulled it out kinda fast as well. Now it is Saturday 5 days later from Monday and it feels like I have a knot in the injection area and soreness around it. Temp normal, no redness, I feel fine overall not fatigue, solid workouts everyday since. the second injection on my left was honestly really great although I went too fast again. pip on that side from Thursday isn't too bad at all. very manageble so im happy I was able to at least improve.
Another thing to note I did a leg day 3 days after on Thursday while I had pip there and I did 315 on squats for 5 sets of 10-15 rep. 315 on rdl for 5 sets same rep range etc etc. stretched it out and the next day. MY goodness it was fucking worse. I can walk but I honestly am a little slow doing so and the more I walk the looser it is thanfully. Im wondering if I aggravated it by going hard on my legday(also shook as hell that leg day after pip was really good like that).
the overall question is should I be worried about this? any thoughts on how to improve next time from more experienced guys?
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If you got bad pip from a virgin ventro glute don’t do lats..
The first pins always suck for pip, you’ll get used to it, maybe get some test cyp 200 next time? 300mg/ml isn’t exactly “highly concentrated” but I’ve had pip from it before and I’ve been pinning for years.
I have 2 vials of 200 cyp I may switch to. But I think I can handle the 300mg test e...when I said vastus lat its short for vastus lateralis or your outer quad. I pinned that not my lat lol
AnonI don't pin lats
Just did the quad pin pre Quad focused leg day. Honestly wasn't bad no pain did it super slow and controlled. curious to see how much pip if any I get with this. You were right about it being really nice to have both hands easily available. on to perform z track method the other to penetrate and pin. I injected very very slowly with this I think that will make a huge difference in oil dispersement and also eliminate a lot of tissue damage from someone injected very fast.
no the vastus lateralis aka your outer quad lol. sorry shortened it to vastus lat my bad!
RustyhookerShaky...virgin muscle....you sure you hut muscle? Hot pad reduces pip best as does movement.
im almost certain. Flexing my glute causes slight pain/soreness. Also felt it while working out. and yes been using a heating pad and pain meds for now. Was really wondering if the 1inch is too short and to try a 1.5 next time for the glute.
I was just about to add...Try 1.5 next time in the glute. Get a bit deeper.
Sounds like standard pip for first timer. If not red and warm to touch should be gtg. 300mg Test e is a little more concentrated than what a first timer normally would use, so that can contribute a little extra to pip. 200-250mg is typical concentration recommended for first runs. Keep rotation good, and everything clean, and pip should be less and less each time. There is some good information on here, so reading is your friend.
Anon+1 this comment right here ^
its warm but def not red! and will do
Sounds pretty normal from my experience. People have told me to start to worry of the skin gets hot, get a fever, or if PIP doesn’t start get better after 4 days. Virgin muscles take a few pins to start accepting foreign oil without reacting negatively.
I pinned my delt the other day for the first time with pharma quality test e and it hurt for over four days. I don’t recommend it. I stick with ventral glute, lats, and thigh. Thigh being the worst pip of those. After a while they stop hurting.
I’ve bent pins during inject 45 degrees a few times. Lol, getting to my non dominant side has always been a struggle. Thank god I have a partner that helps.
Also, I get amps most of the time which lets me use 18g dispensing pins. Makes slurping up that oil a breeze. They I swap to 27g luer for painless pin. Takes slightly longer for inject, but if you have a 1cc shaft, it’s just as easy as using 25g on a 3cc shaft. Lol. Shaft.
AnonSmartest thing I ever seen you say +1
Lol, thanks bro. I do appreciate that.
that's reassuring lol.
If you plan on pinning a lot, find a few different locations and rotate. Or you’ll be dealing with having to try to break up scar tissue down the road.
I did both my vent glutes this week. Next week I will rotate to the Delts. then rotate back to the vent glute.
You could do 1/2 cc in each pec with a slin pin
a slin pin is 1/2 an inch right?
Mine are
I also like to pin before i go to the gym. Maybe that can help. And for glutes i use 1@1-2 inch deep
Delts we’re the worst pain I’ve ever felt with an inject, and that pain stayed at the same intensity for 4 full days before it started to get better. Including all vaccines and anything else that’s ever gone in there. Hope it’s not the same for you, but if it is, there’s a ton of other places to get to.
Try hamstrings…. You’ll trade your soul for the pain to go away lol
^^^Now that’s a statement.
hes trying to kill me. im convinced
Lmao def passing on hammies!!!
I used to get allergy shots there as a kid so maybe it could work out!
I’m interested, keep me informed. Every body is different.
I went with the outer Quad. Applied 20 mins of heat pad. Then went to the gym to hit a quad focused legday which is normal for Monday. No pain or swelling as of yet. going to apply heat pad most of the day, go for a couple of walks and stretch again. hopefully its nothing wild but im prepared for the worst.
correct. and I would pin the glutes again but I should realistically give them more time to fully heal
Also, Pretty sure the reason others aren’t responding is because the question you asked has been answered 100’s of times over. People expect you to first research the forums to try to find an answer before you ask. Just what I’ve noticed from all of the forums i have been a part of. Cheers.