posted Fri, 03/04/2022 - 16:24
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To Tren or not to Tren
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So, I'll be starting my 5th cycle soon and I'm just looking for some advice here.
My 3rd and 4th cycles both consisted of 150mgs of tren ace and 750mg of sust. I ran mast with one and winny with another. Obviously the results were always great, cause I don't really know how you have a bad tren cycle, but I keep hearing about how awesome NPP is.
Have any of you switched from tren to NPP? Does it give you a puffy look like dbol? I don't really get sides from much of anything, but are there any that come with NPP I should watch for ? How many mgs a week do you suggest ?
Id appreciate any help!
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Tren messes with mental state too much for me. I think it works best at low doses (100-200mg) and somewhat low Test (200-300mg). You do not need a lot of Tren for it to shine, as long as nutrition is right.
I have had decent experiences with NPP. In the end, it just a less watery Deca. The results are very similar with glycogen retention & water weight
And with the NPP what dosage would you recommend with 400mg of test c weekly?
2:1 Test to Deca/NPP is normal to prevent Deca Dick. This would mean 200mg NPP for your 400mg Test dose. I know some people run Deca/NPP at 1:1 along with Proviron to help with libido and dick issues.
My favorite NPP cycle was with Test P (300mg) and NPP (200mg). This helped me pack on size without so much water weight. I prefer slower quality gains rather than a sloppy 30lbs in a couple months
bgukxllsI've only messed with Tren once. It's a bit of a blur to me as I was on other compounds.. So I can't really say anything... Just here for the comments to learn something or another.
I think the 10mg per day (100-105 mg / week) would be a good way to test it out if you're apprehensive. You can start low and work your way up to gauge how it treats you.
RustyhookerStick to what you know. Ace is dead in 48hrs
I am about to start my 2nd cycle every I have 3 10ml bottles of test cyp 200mg that’s was actually prescribed to me from pharmacy and 2 10ml vials of tren e on the way should be here within the next week. Any recommendations on how I should do my cycle and what PCT I should recommend after cycle?
Rustyhooker2nd cycle....no! Facepalm...
I dont think anyone whos human should do tren. Never tried never will tbh
I v just written at the thread about my opinions for NPP
https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/deca-durabolin-or-n...
Tren is the latest thing that you should try if you ask me. If I was in your shoes, I do not even consider Tren in next 5 cycles. It isn't beneficial enough at this stage.. I don't know your stats, so everyone is different. But you can go long way with NPP if you ask me.
Tren for me by a landslide! I will do 400 mg test e a week and 100mg tren EOD. but that's what I found works best for me. You may be different. Just start low then adjust according to how you feel. The body will tell you everything you need to know if you listen to it.
What form of magnesium is sufficient to defeat the stink and cramps? Would mag citrate work for an immediate effect?
My favorite compounds NPP and tren A . i always do 6 weeks npp 75 mg eod with 100mg prop eod .then 2 weeks only 100mg prop eod . then i add 50mg tren A eod for 6 weeks with 100mg test prop. i prefer short esters above long esters if you have a good pinning rotation theres no problem.
Nothing beats the Tren look but you can achieve great things with NPP and a top notch diet. Too many fatties run nandrolones and blow up like the Michelin man and blame NPP/deca. Run some test and nand for a big boy bulk and I guarantee you’ll be over the moon with the amount of muscle you have to show off once you cut away the excess timber.
I agree, Tren is the sh*t. Im an older, broke down guy, so I have to have my Test. But, to me, Tren is da bomb. You get everything you need depending on diet/mg's. But, its not a beginners gear. Wonder how many kids Tren has caused them to get their azz whipped?
I prefer npp all day. It doesn’t give me the bloat of deca and so many less sides then tren
Teen doesn’t give me much size. Just hardens me up. NPP gave me a fuller healthier look. My wife likes the way I look on NPP but not on tren. Plus my urine came out really dark on teen. Can’t be good for you.
Gotta supplement with liver and kidney health while on Tren. Drink lots of water too. Pee will come out looking decent then.
Good point. That is an understatement, definitely with the newbies. I wish I would have had the access to research when I started roids as they do now. My idea of liver/kidney care was "plenty of water and One A Day" vitamins." Last year, had a full check up done, and my "hot ass" Russian Dr. made a comment about my enzyme levels being slight jacked up. When the liver and kidneys get damaged its very hard if possible to reverse the damage.
If you've already ran Tren, NPP or deca isn't a big deal really. They add a tad bit of water but nothing like dbol. Good bulker. Like trens weaker, slightly wet cousin without the mental sides. I'd stick to just two compounds bro. Test and npp or deca would be a good one to add some poundage.
I know this might be a stupid question too, but with compounds like deca or NPP that are like non veterinarian, do you lose a lot of your gains after you come off? I've always heard with tren or winny or eq that you hang on to a lot more of what you put on. I'm 210 and I'm pretty cut up right now, so I'm not really going for a bigger puffy look it that makes any sense.
RustyhookerNpp IS vet .....
Like I said it ain't dbol. You wont get a moon face or tons of water. Just a tad bit. I'm on test and deca now. One of my favorite stacks.
Bloated my first CYcle, funky smelling sweat clearly directly affected my thyroid.
RustyhookerSounds like you just throw in the kitchen sink. How bout post up pix and stats....goals.
You’re probably the saltiest guy on earth. I love it.
Don't even wanna know how you know what rusty tastes like. Lmfao. Jk.
Rusty is still a filthy mortal.
RustyhookerOh snaps....hagaha...youz twoz
I'm kinda new here bub I didn't know how I was supposed to go about it lol
RustyhookerWell....tren isnt a good idea
You can have a bad Tren cycle if side effects aren’t managed properly.
Tren can go sideways on you, even if your doing things right. Always best to be prepared, but it’s something I stay away from.
Agreed, I don’t think I’ll ever run it again