PIP after a 1ml sustanon 250
hi,
i started my second cycle this week,
1ml sustanon 250 and 1ml boldenone 250 for 8 week. ( 2ml of each the first 2 week, then 1ml of each )
so for my first week and first pin, i did 1ml boldenone in my left quad, and 1ml of susta in my right quad, i'am in ease with my quad ( my first cycle went well in this area)
So, after a day, no pip at all in my boldo quad, but i feel some pain in my susta quad with no redness at all , slit heat and pain when i touch the quad in the injectio site and little around.
now 2 day after the injection tha pain is still here. i can walk, did a leg day with no issues recruiting muscle, but when touching it hurt the same way it hurt when you touch a bruise.
is it normal ? i read many topic about this, and it confuses me more then helped. some get away with it after 3/4 days even a week, some are talking about infections.
All the gear are from ******** ( apparently i cant tell from what lab ). and i am very paranoid, so i followed a strict injection protocol with sterilisig the site, the gear before doing anything. i used a 22G seringe.
Excuse my english, this isn't my mother language.
Thanks for your time !!
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22g is fine. Some people are sensitive to test prop. I have this debate about syringe size a lot of here. I prefer 23g 1.5 inch and I like the glutes, delts, and lats for my injection sites. I stay away from quad shots, I never liked them that a though muscle and is wrapped with fascia that is also on the tough
As long as it’s not hot to touch you should be ok
Put a heating pad on the injection site a couple times a day. Also, switch to 25g needle. I don't even use 22g in my ass, I use 23g.
AnonYou’re pinning with a 22g in your quads and running bold for 8 weeks..
Who told you those were a good idea, because you should do the exact opposite they tell you next time…
Molinin302It's the short ester, period. I react the same way. But you need to get your life together, the way you're going at it shows you may not be cut out for this.
TricepatopsI will answer this with why you have pip it is the prop ester in it and is normal. Not saying that is 100% it but if you never used prop in the quad you will get pip. But your cycle is not good and pretty much what I will say is already said by others.
I am more concerned about that cycle you are planning to run and not so much the pip.
^^^listen to this guy
Was your first cycle Test-E/C only? If so the PIP you are experiencing is probably from the shoter ester tests (especially prop and phenylprop). Those two, especially prop are notorious for PIP.
Do us all a favor and provide the following information so we can better advise you:
1) Age
2) Training History
3) Physical Stats (Height, Weight, BF%...)
4) Amount of each ester used to make the UGL Sust. They are all different.
5) Plan for PCT and what ancillaries you already have on hand.
6) Diet and Training Routine
7) Results from first cycle
8) What led you to choose to add Bold to your second cycle. Usually #2 is either a little longer or with an oral steroid kick start but still test only.
I ask for all of this additional information so that we can give you full, well rounded cycle advice as opposed just saying "It's probably the short esters in the prop. Go to the Dr and tell them you got poked by a dirty finishing nail to get antibiotics *.
hey thanks for your concern, so i'am 27, 85 kg, 1m84 for the bodyfat i will tell aprroxymetly 18/22%.
my plan for pct is simple, i got some arimidex in case of a aromatisation, i got clomid ( 150mg first day post 3week last pin, then 100 next day then 50 the next few days) for the nolvadex and the arimidex i will wait to see my blood test.
the amount of each ester for my susta is :
testo decanoate 94.1 mg/ml
testo isocaproate 59.4 mg/ml
testo phenylpropionate 51.3 mg/ml
testo propionate 31.9 mg/ml
i train 6times a week 2 times chest/tri, 2times back and biceps, one time shoulders/trapeze and one times full leg days ( this is based on what work best for me from experience )
My diet is pretty solid i have no worries about that. macro/micro and not a nutriNa***
my first cycle was pretty much impressive in term of result, got some real gains, performance was really mind blowing.
Why bold, is a good question, from some research, i saw that susta and bold can do well , so i give it a chance. ( i know this isnt the best response )
thanks for your time !
note ( the PIP have significantly reduce at this time) i will stay ion touch ! )
Yes delete the brand’s buddy. I’ve never used that one, but I would check reviews and see if pip is common with that source. However, there can be several reasons.. you could have hit a nerve and time will heal. It maybe the oil- if so, contact the source.
Without going deeper than that, just keep an eye on it. Seeing it’s not red, is a good sign. I would suggest pinning in a different area and see if you still have the same problem. Seeing your new to using these compounds, you might need to break up your pins to 2x a week. I full mL might be too much for you all at once.
Hope that helps a little
hey i deleted the brand from the comment, the pain has significantly reduce now, i will stay in touch ! thanks for your concern !
You can't mention sources in the forums. You'll need to remove it ASAP.
Also, I won't comment too much here, but it sounds like you would be served by doing more research around compounds and site selection.
Lastly, you ought not run EQ in an 8-week cycle. The shortest cycle of EQ should be 14 weeks, but ideally 16 weeks. Here again, more research will serve you well.
i know that EQ work with stack, so i manage to make "stack" by doing 2ml first two weeks, i dont really want to go full 14 weeks for now !
Thanks for your advice i will take note, and appreciate the efforts, the pain significantly reduce now, i will stay in touch !
Rustyhooker2nd cycle chose sust....haha. jeeses....2 oils? 22ga...smdh
jyst stop your cycle....find GROUPS---FIRST CYCLE EXPLAINED.
youre 25lbs underweight etc ....you got food and gym issues to fix
hey thanks for your concern, i do not have gym and food issues, my perf and physics are solid, my diet is too !
Anyway, i take note and thanks for your time !
RustyhookerSo 25lbs underweight and 20% bf is on point...lol...no
I agree, 187 lbs and 6'0/6'-1 at 20% body fat is missing diet or gym time or both.
Lets have him layout his diet.
RustyhookerThe food gurus could get him jacked without gear.
But that would deny him magic pills and the joy of working out.
RustyhookerI miss being on tge wizard of oz with all my lil munchkins....
Is anyone going to jump in on this one? Rusty made it too easy. Fine...I will do it.
Are you not the head munchkin?
RustyhookerYup! Lmao
Lmao