Over sleeping tired on deca, test c cycle… need advice
Sex: Male
Age:40
Height: 5’10
Body weight: 206
Body fat: 15.2
Cycle
Deca 200mg x2 a week
Test c 300 mg x2 a week. 400/600 weekly
Proviron 25 eod
A little bit of back ground on me. I’ve been non the gym most my adult life and have been cycling on off gear for the past five years. This is my first cycle with deca but I have used npp before with no problems. This is my first time with proviron as well. I did check to make sure proviron would be ok instead of arimidex or aromasin. I got the thumbs up and started my cycle 6 weeks ago.
These are my symptoms, I can’t get the fuck out of bed. I’m tired as a motherfucker. I’m sleeping till 4pm and going to bed at midnight. I’m not doing good in the gym. I don’t think the test is turning to estrogen cause not emotional. I did check my blood pressure and it’s 145/92 so that not good being so high. I’ve been eating well, probably more carbs than needed. I’m sluggish in a slump and it’s affecting my business being self employed. Who the fuck gets out of bed at 4pm!
I’m usually energetic and pumped. No I have never done blood work. I know I should. Not really looking to be condemned over it. Just need some advice on if it’s the proviron or the deca. Thank for your taking the time to read this and any input you might have.
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My first thought is it could be the the deca due to an increase in prolactin production. 19-nors affect thyroid function and raise prolactin levels. Both of which can cause lethargy. Also taking AAS over a prolonged time can cause your adrenal glands to stop producing enough cortisol for your body's normal needs. Symptoms of adrenal suppression include fatigue and weakness. Sounds like you may be "burning" out over the years of cycling. Start by dropping the deca to see if that's the culprit or take caber to lower your prolactin levels (if you wish to continue cycling). If you're still having issues, it's good to take a break from everything every so often, organs get taxed, receptors get burned out. Best of luck.
Good advice. Could be adrenal suppression. I've heard of a similar case before. And I agree could be deca as some are affected by raised prolactin and get depressed. I've seen that too. I tell folks all the time to let their bodies rest or take a break from the juice. Also an important thing is BEFORE anyone even thinks of their first cycle they better do thorough research and have an idea of what's to come or else a situation like this can and will occur. Now I'm blaming no one and hope this guy get it all worked out. I can try to guess this or that issue but that would be just throwing something at the wall and hoping something sticks. This guy needs a Doc period. Many variables to consider.
Is your gear dosed properly?
Without any bloodwork it's a guessing game unfortunately. Next question is about your gear. Is it dosed properly? Reputable src?
Yes there a number one domestic. I’ll find out tomorrow when I get blood work, if it’s those properly
Dosed. I contacted my source about them, telling me proviron instead of an ai. He was a complete fucking dick which shock me since I’ve been at client for five years. He said he don’t have no control over the emails and he didn’t say that shit and I replied that it doesn’t matter who said it. Your company said it. And he went to fuck off, saying that it was shipping it told me that, I was not trying to fix the situation at all which is really fucking shocking to me
How do you not know about a.i s how? This is ridiculous
Really? Wow. That's crazy
The sad part is, if I give him a bad review, which would be an honest review. People are going to dog shit out of me and take all my karma points. That’s probably the main fucking thing I don’t like about this site. I could show the emails I could show the messages showing it ain’t done nothing wrong and I have been giving bad information and Dude is being a complete dick about. But people ride the vendors dick so hard that I’m gonna end up looking like a bad guy in the end. I’ve never had to make another account, but I could see why people would have to.. I could be looking at it from a completely wrong angle. I don’t know I’m just seeing it from the way I’m saying it I’m seeing it, and I’ve been suffering my ass off and the people they gave me the bad information don’t give a fuck.
Messed up situation point blank. Who ever they are, regardless of their ranking, I wouldn't do business with them anymore. I'm just going by what you said. I'm sure they probably have their side of the story too. Bad advice can be very dangerous as we all know. But like I said not good. Doctor visit is best advice.
Don't blame anyone except for yourself
My karma and I’m at 12 I don’t know who put that on there but I just wanted to say thank you I’m grateful for that
I posted a comment and then went and read the rest of the comments and have a few more thoughts.
First, it sound like you are having some struggles with your businesses. I’m sorry bro. That can be a real kick in the nuts.
The sleeping long Combined with the stress of failing businesses..sounds like depression might be creeping in on you a little as well.
How are you feeling mentally?
You mentioned you aren’t emotional so it’s probably it estro..I would definitely not try and measure my estro by my emotions.
Sometimes depression can numb you hard enough to where if you grew ovaries..you won’t get emotional.
Also..it might be good for you to really back off the salt if that’s a problem.
Really bro. That sleep has me concerned. Take some time to get your balance back.
Good luck.
So my source who told me proviron is saying I don't control emails I didn't say that. But if there reping your business it really shouldn't matter who said it because it was said by your people. The question he should be asking is how do I make this right
Hope you gotta good source
I thought I did.
Mentally I stuggling with depression
For some nandrolone has been known to cause depression.
I've been intaking way to much salt
A couple of things that come to mind…you really ought to get some bloods ran and check your cholesterol and your RBC. Your stats show a pretty fit guy..but..if you are not shooting us straight on that..you could just be a little overweight.
The big question I have is: Who is the idiot that gave you the green light to sub proviron in for the Aromasin and Adex? That was shit advice.
At any rate, I think I’d drop the Deca, and proviron, bump that test down to 200/ week and go to the doc and get your blood tested.
It probably wouldn’t hurt to donate blood.
When you get feeling better, find the dude who gave you the ai advice snd kick him in the nuts.
Hope that helps, all my love, no homo
Ed
Bloods done Friday, tomorrow if I can make it happen. I'm gonna donate tomorrow definitely. I've added a quart of coconut water a day. Upped the fish oil and started garlic extract pills. The idiot that told me proviron is a well respected vendor that I don't want being his name up on here and effect his business over bad advice. But I have brought it to his attention and in the works of getting an AI.Alrwadt told him I'm not paying the minimum to order and just want to get the ai. Waiting to hear back. Yes I'm a little overweight but I wanted the extra weight. That's why I went with the cycle I choose. Blast on Wednesday and Sunday. This Sunday I just did test c at 250 mg. But Wednesday I will bump it down to 125
Proviron isn’t a bad thing, it just wasn’t the right thing for what you’re going through. I’m on the 3-4th week of Proviron right now. First time ever, and I love what it’s doing for me. Don’t throw it away or anything like that. It’s great to run with test. Just be sure to get some Arimadex, and always keep it on hand when cycling just about anything. I fucked up once and ran out, and shit got real on me. Blood donation is a great idea, but the doctor is a better one. Just be careful and don’t let them throw you on blood thinners.
I sent you a request to answer your question
You got more going on here than just what compounds you are on. Time to see a doc like others have mentioned. If I was in the mess that you are I would be dropping everything and be getting to a doc asap for a check up.
Who the hell gave you thumbs up that provi would be ok for an AI instead of adex or asin. Big mistake.
Friend me and I'll tell you. I'm not trying to put it that on here
Thyroid issues?
Man, you don’t need advice. You need to see your doctor ASAP. Hope you get better and things work out.
RustyhookerNolva crashes igf1
Increases shbg too tough guy
Bro I'm not a tough guy. I'm a man all day but I don't try to portray myself as tough. Lol I'm a lame ass family guy
That comment wasn't meant for you at all. But hey look at my comment at the top of this page. It's about your gear
I thought about it after I sent it. Lol I was thinking there’s someone named tough guy or some part of a conversation I missed…. My bad, I’m a little a little on the burnt out side
RustyhookerIncreasing sbgh halts your cycle.....which is exactly why we run orals to LOWER sbgh.
And while you powerflush that small knowledge.... nothing like paying $300 plus per kit to raise igf so some newbs like you can toss bad info and waste someones cycle.
genius!!!! Gimp applause
What oral are you referring to rusty?
Yea all orals lower shbg to the same degree too right? Lol No one can understand half the stuff you say Rusty I promise you. Hope you don't think I take you serious like I do the actual knowledgeable members. At the end of the day Rusty with all your knowledge you look how you look but I'm the one with no knowledge huh lol? Umm ok. You can say what ya want man, that won't change. Why don't ya post a selfie pic? No? That says it all. Nothing to prove to ya. Have a good one bud! Good day!
RustyhookerIt outright says your advice is dogshit. Telling dudes to add nolva. Dogshit....
Post up your arm push however ya did that. Had everyone rolling there mr big guy
My arm is bigger than your fat ass leprechaun head lil guy.
Rusty what are you talking about? Man mentally something off with ya bud lol. Read it again. I never told dude to add nolva. I just corrected you because you said nolva is called a pct. It's a serm used for pct Rusty! Rusty it's a serm. Rusty it's a serm! Now..your pic please
Who are you talking shit about now? I see you deleted your comment again huh? Yes Nolva a serm or what you called a pct, crashes IGF1 and increases shbg. It's common sense anytime you crash e2 ya crash IGF1 lil guy. That's why folks tend to not make the gains that they would have if they hadn't used nolva or anything that crashes estrogen. So who were ya talking about?
HEY! Regardless of what RustyHooker does for a living, he's been here a long time and made his contribution.
I've never understood why people get this God pass on here to be a dick. Not talking directly on rusty, just in general. And not everyone's abusive to there rank but I'm not kissing anyones ass because they spend all day getting there thumb pump on
You got to understand, how this website can make everybody look sometimes. People do reckless things when it comes to their body.. I've done it! .. and we are all here to help eachother out and get better. Sometimes there's no other way, than to be direct and it comes off asshole. Rusty knows this and has fun with it. Bottom line is: have discipline and take care of yourself. Don't let your high BP just happen while you continue your cycle without getting bloodwork, then ask a few questions then watch DeeMan and Rusty clog this thread no matter how entertaining it may be...Take care bro! We will answer your questions but make us look good.
Bloods tomorrow my guy. I did take someone’s advice on here. I lowered my dose down to 125 twice a week and I cut the Deca. I started coconut water, one for the day and garlic extract, upped the fish oil. I was supposed to donate blood today but it’s a two hour process and they close at six and I got there at 4:15 so I’m going tomorrow first thing in the morning if I can get the fuck out of bed. I do feel a little better today and only slept till 2:00pm. My sex drive has gone to shit.
If you are oversleeping you will feel like the garbage that you describe. Sleep no more than 7.5 hours or less if possible. Make sure you are up by 7am force yourself.. drink coffee or whatever if you need to and that will help a lot.
Nahh I'm done with the circus stuff. Guess Lil guy recharging his batteries for some more action. Hell he wins, I'm tired.
Don't gas out D and don't admit defeat. He's prolly towing someone that parked in the wrong spot.
Lmao. But hey thanks for reminding me about that issue last night. I have to keep that in mind. You did have a point.
Neg for not knowing what's going on and commenting
I think he just likes to argue and you take the bait!! You two are on every thread arguing about fuckin garbage trucks... I been talking to that dude here on eroids for years 3 accounts ago & pls don't neg me... it stings..
Well you should know the root of the situation before you comment sir. If he drives garbage trucks then that's what it is. You talk as if rusty is the only one contributing to eroids and you're wrong. If he's helped you good deal. You can help without being nasty and toxic sir. I'm a vet so it's entertaining to me but it's the new guys that are affected
I always pictured him driving an old tow truck. I use to repo cars in my late teens, and I would always drive a wheel lift or a hooker/wrecker.