Over sleeping tired on deca, test c cycle… need advice
Sex: Male
Age:40
Height: 5’10
Body weight: 206
Body fat: 15.2
Cycle
Deca 200mg x2 a week
Test c 300 mg x2 a week. 400/600 weekly
Proviron 25 eod
A little bit of back ground on me. I’ve been non the gym most my adult life and have been cycling on off gear for the past five years. This is my first cycle with deca but I have used npp before with no problems. This is my first time with proviron as well. I did check to make sure proviron would be ok instead of arimidex or aromasin. I got the thumbs up and started my cycle 6 weeks ago.
These are my symptoms, I can’t get the fuck out of bed. I’m tired as a motherfucker. I’m sleeping till 4pm and going to bed at midnight. I’m not doing good in the gym. I don’t think the test is turning to estrogen cause not emotional. I did check my blood pressure and it’s 145/92 so that not good being so high. I’ve been eating well, probably more carbs than needed. I’m sluggish in a slump and it’s affecting my business being self employed. Who the fuck gets out of bed at 4pm!
I’m usually energetic and pumped. No I have never done blood work. I know I should. Not really looking to be condemned over it. Just need some advice on if it’s the proviron or the deca. Thank for your taking the time to read this and any input you might have.
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Lifted-presence92Someone has to blunt!
RustyhookerEverything else is just guessing. Bp up...sleepy...e2....
Blocking isnt an ai so pandoras box opens. All over an 80buck test
Hey Rusty, do you have any recommendations for someone who lives in NY, and can’t get blood draws without a MD referral and then having a ton of questions come up as a result?? Thanks my friend!
RustyhookerSome folks drove over next states. Day trip. Out there though...ya it sucks :(
No, I called one of the companies and they said that they check IDs and if you are from NY, they will deny you. Trust me bro, I already thought of driving to PA or Jersey. I wonder if there are any online MDs that willl write a script and not ask any questions. They do that for other things
Have you tried a home delivery test thing, where they send you a sample collection tube and then mail it back? or do they say they cant mail to new york? i think one is called letsgetchecked
Never mind i just checked it, It says "This test is not permitted in New York" sorry man, that sucks. Try one of those online trt clinics just to get the labs ordered. My girl works for the state (not new york) setting up telehealth kiosks, ill ask her when she gets home later if she got any ideas for a teleheath site thatll order labs for you.
Rusty bro.... I already know I'm gonna catch shit over--♂️-- it is what it is. I'm not gonna act like a little bitch about. I know haven't been following protocol with the bloodwork. But the proviron I was told by a well respect person on here should be fine to use instead of arimidex.
Lifted-presence92When running nandrol I’d personally run a dht gotta hit all pathways for an affective cycle add some primo at a good dose you could possibly not need and ai depending on how you respond.
Nolva and clomid aren't a pct, but serms used during pct. They have potent anti estrogenic properties. Both bind to estrogen receptors blocking out estrogen. They block negative feedback inhibition caused by estrogen.
Lifted-presence92Very true dudes used to use clomid back in the day for an ai lol.
Yeah I had my dealings with clomid. Honestly that shit is horrible on your emotions.
Accidentally negged, not intentional
All good
Lifted-presence92I’ve heard bro and causes blurry vision!
Yep and I got both. Vision was kinda blurry. I mean I felt like the trash that @Rustyhooker actually picks up!
Jugular!!
Look at my new comment down below to liftedpresence92 for an explanation of this foolishness
RustyhookerYet another op you havent helped ...wheres the help on other troll you backed and didnt help? Lol...typical betabitch
Kinda like how you tried to help the guy on this post by saying CLOMID and NOLVA were called a PCT and not SERMS used for pct huh? And again you deleted that comment lol. Don't lie cause I took a screenshot. Dude you're a fake phony with no knowledge, pretender. I'm done playing with you mini troll! We don't need to comment anymore ok. I see ya called for ya daddy on Unc's page, now that's a beta bitch lol..Bye
Lifted-presence92Lmfao! Rusty Hooker is a dumpster diver l?
I wouldn't even worry bout that comment bro, if it ain't a big blue or green metal container that has City Waste painted on it then no worries cause he ain't diving in anything besides that, trust me I know for sure!
Anyways so I simply asked him if he knew what was going on with my waste collection bill since he's familiar with that type of work. I haven't had trash pickup in 3 days yet I see more fees added to my trash pickup bill. He just wouldn't help me that's all. No biggie brother.
RustyhookerHey....that heavy heart troll is all gone. I was right yet again. Nothing new though...
Yea you were right and most of us wrong and I give ya lil ass credit but what about my owed 13 reviews? Me living in Florida? You weren't right on those! You have a losing record period
RustyhookerOnly when your mothers involved. She owes me $5 for diving her trash can. Lol
Lifted-presence92Lmfao she reported you on yelp for being under serviced and having a micro penis
Hahaha
RustyhookerThats all ya got? 24hrs of thinking brought that clever reply? Hahahaha!
Lifted-presence92Bro if you think I even checked that message 24 hours ago you’re mistaken I got other things going on besides being on the internet little homie.
RustyhookerIm sure few more days thinking that you and tweeker could find a good cumback. Check your mommas skidmarks. Booty full of midget goo. Lol
Lifted-presence92Did you just refer to yourself as a midget?
RustyhookerLol...yup. Been sayin that for 4 decades now.
Lifted-presence92Nice man!
RustyhookerIts not the same in its action at all. It will make e2 HIGHER....so whomever told you...cyber kick their nads bro. Well respected was full of crap and now youre feeling like this.
Ive posted forum on where to get bloods.
Nolva is not an ai.....its pct
Clomid is not an ai...its pct
Not really greasy or sad. Just no energy, tired and lazy. How do fix it without bloodwork. I know that’s a catch 22 question but any advice? I have some novadex and clom around here somewhere..
If I was you I'd drop the test down to 150mg a week and the deca to 250mg until you get bloodwork and everything checked out. You got high BP and who knows what else. Your blood might be getting too thick. In the meantime hit up some fish oil, kyolic garlic extract and a liter of coconut water a day.
Lifted-presence92Definitely!!!! Do NOT run deca higher than test….
What? Lots of people run low test with a higher dose of a 19nor to reduce aromatization. Something the OP probably has. Besides only bloodwork will show this.
Lifted-presence92That’s old forum jibberish bro just saying I’m not trying to criticize you.
I run low test with either npp or tren. This method is old forum jibberish? Seems to work really well for me - blood work just came out great just hematocrit and hemoglobin was a little elevated. I can post my bloodwork. Not trying to debate just sharing my results.
If anything right now keep the Test up.
The point of my comment was to lower everything until bloodwork is done. Bloods don't lie.
RustyhookerIf he lowers before tests then the ai/da if needed is greatly skewed.
I see that... but if I had high blood pressure and was feeling like shit with no plans to get a blood test, id lower my dosages on Everything until it's under control, or blood is drawn... why risk?
It's good to hear from ya rusty
RustyhookerNo plans on blood test is stupid and you know that. Call it how it is sir. So far everyone on here is dumping more drugs on a problem that should be taken seriously. It make eroids look like a garbage truck from france on fire apparently. Lol
You got that right!
Ok thank you I will do thst. Already have all that here at the house so I'm gonna do that now.