Next blast suggestion
About to come off of a cruise in 4 weeks after a successful spring blast and a hard diet summer cruise, got down to 14-15% bf. Dropping another 5 pounds before blasting. Looking for suggestions for the next blast. I've only done countless blasts of test e 500-600mgs and var all through my 20s/30s.
1: stick with 14 weeks tried and true test 600/hgh 2-4 iu (year round)/25mg var last 8 weeks (never incorporated hgh yet)
2: 14 weeks 500 test/150-350 npp (dose depending on how I respond/bloods, never messed with a 19nor yet)
3: 600 test/300-400 mast?
I'd being willing to give primo a try but not trusting the market right now for that compound and the shortage/fake shit out there. Mast kind of worries me with hairloss. I'm 38 and still have a decent full head of hair but thinning with age. Not sure how I'd feel about losing the rest of it, if at all depending how I react.
I've got everything on hand minus mast. I'd probably get some PP mast from good ol freak. Thanks for any insight fellas.
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Stick with test, especially since this is your first run with GH. Test with GH is a whole different animal. No need to complicate things with more steroids. But you do need to run more than 2ius, that’s an HRT dose. Go 4-5ius on cycle. The synergy between the two compounds is amazing. You’ve been restrained so far and stuck with what I think is the safest way to do this, so don’t stop now.
This was my exact thinking at first. You think that the most bang for the buck? Even over sprinkling in some NPP without gh? Yeah I was thinking of getting up to 4-5iu if all goes well after starting at 2iu for a couple weeks. And like I said, I'm all about keeping bloods healthy as possible, so test and gh seem like a long term safe game.
Definitely start low. Your feet and ankles will more than likely swell up like crazy if you jump right into 4-5ius a day. To where your shoes don’t fit lol. 2ius is a good place to start. Do that for 2 weeks and if all good go up to 3 for another 2 weeks, then 4 etc. The water retention will start in 7-14 days if it’s going to happen. Typically goes down after about the same amount of time as your body gets used to it.
Best bang for your buck is the cycle that gives you good gains with least impact to your body. Don’t think nandrolone will ever be included in that formula. Go read studies on its effects on the heart and cardiac remodeling. Very concerning how fast it starts. If you really want to throw in another compound primo or mast would be my choice. Primo for bulking or cutting, mast just for cutting.
You're the man. Appreciate your insight!
Ranger3252It’s a fall/winter blast so let’s bulk right?
Test/Deca/Dbol/GH. You’re the deciding factor of how much you want to run.
Deca might be a contender if I can handle npp. Mental sides have me reserved. Thinking about adding gh to the protocol. So weird how gh has 2 extreme sides of the story: yeah dude it's the greatest thing I've ever added or no dude, biggest piss of money down the drain per cost:gains ratio.
Mast would be a great compound to dip your toes into. Nice and mild. Would add to your overall anabolic load. Great mood enhancer. Just works. I haven’t experienced hair loss with it minus a little thinning that started 3 years ago. I’m 38 and most of the men in my family thin out or recede.
Mast E is scarce right now but Mast P is still fairly easy to come by from many reputable sources and brands.
Yeah I'm pretty thin up top already at 38 and I used to have hair thick enough I had my barber thin it every cut. That's the only thing scaring me with mast. Ahhh decisions decisions risk risk.
Brother, after reading your convo with @SeeOhShow, I’d personally lean towards a more old-school, basic setup … but with a slight twist. I’d keep it simple with test and deca (I personally prefer NPP even for longer runs, just responds better for me) and add a touch of mast for libido, drive, and overall hardness. Then, I’d finish the blast by throwing in Var for the last 4–6 weeks to break through any plateaus and tighten up conditioning … of course, assuming your bloods look good enough to handle it.
Layout would be something like:
• Test E/C
• NPP
• Mast E
• Var (last 4–6 weeks)
Dosages are a very individual thing … what works for me might not work for you. Same with compound selection. This is just one possible approach, but based on your goals and what you laid out, this is the route I’d personally go.
Btw this is gold:
For sure! What would you recommend starting dose for NPP as a first time user while trying to titrate up to 300-350? Mast probably 300-400 if I decided to get over the hairloss worry..
Bro, for a first NPP run I’d keep it simple:
If it’s just for joint relief, 100–150mg/week is plenty. You’ll get the synovial “lube” effect without changing much else.
For moderate lean gains, 250–300mg/week is the sweet spot … better recovery, joint support, and solid muscle without drowning in prolactin issues.
For maximum growth, 350–450mg/week is where NPP really shines … insane pumps, faster recovery, and crazy fullness. But you gotta watch prolactin and estrogen closely here.
I would say anything 500mg+/week on a first run is overkill … that’s where ED, mood swings, acne, unstable prolactin, and possible gyno start showing up. Not worth it unless you’ve already tested your tolerance.
If you’re pairing it with Mast 300–400mg, that’s actually a solid combo … Mast helps offset some estrogenic and dopamine-related sides from NPP while keeping you looking tighter.
I would start conservative… I mean(19-nor), let your body adapt, then bump up if you’re handling it well. First run doesn’t need to be a full “blast” to get solid results.
Ps. If a compound doesn’t sit well with your body, it’ll show … even at low doses. Start low, build your way up gradually, and let your bloodwork and how you feel guide every decision.(if you keep it or don’t)
Good luck, brother man !
Good call man. Always appreciate your input and jumping in. I may just start at 150mg of npp and go from there. Think I should have caber on hand if I don't even plan on going above 300mg for a piece of mind? I run bloods every 4 weeks and keep e2 in check. Usually runs no higher than to on 500mgs of test and no AI. I'll probably run aromasin to keep it a tad lower and I heard p5p is pretty good at low dose of NPP to keep prolactin in check.
What are your goals? That’ll dictate what you should try. Though the best blasts are the ones where you just feel normal and aren’t trying to just ignore some sides to “push through” the cycle
Just to pack on some meat, while maintaining a shredded look, minimize sides, keep bloat down. Nothing crazy at all. I'm not one to push the limits and all about keeping labs in check.
Got any joint problems? If not then don’t bother with the NPP. I’d do test/DHB or test/EQ or test/mast. Any of those three will do what you want. DHB you better have BP meds on hand and I mean stronger than just cialis lol
Eq crossed my mind but my hematocrit gets wild on test alone. Read EQ can skyrocket it further. Joints are definitely creaky in elbows and knees and can literally hear them without headphones. I'll research the dhb. Goal is to look like you in the next couple blasts.
I do love to bulk on NPP. Not gonna lie. But I don’t get the crazy mental sides from it. Feel completely normal and it’s just working in the background.
Mental sides is all I'm worried about. Think 150mg a week for 2 weeks is good to get a feel and go up from there? E2 usually creeps up to 90 on 500mg of test. Will definitely incorporate some aromasin to keep it a bit lower so I don't have to worry about estro/prolactin sides and some p5p.
Yea I feel like the people who complain about the severe 19-nor sides report it happens at any dose. There’s not a threshold for the crazy to kick in
Haha damn. Seems like anything other than test, you gotta deal with either hairloss, mental sides, all the above, or lucky for none of the above.