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Tested low for testosterone at a total of 197 and 4.6 free. I’ve been on test cyp for 25 weeks. Last bloodwork had me at 723 total and 24 free. That was 4 weeks ago and bumped up my dose from 160-184 per week.

Looking for advice on the safest/healthiest thing to add for more muscle growth. Thinking of either increasing my dose by about100 mg a week to 280-300 a week, NPP, or add Primo.

Age: 45
Years lifting weights: 30
Program: PPL and lift 5 days a week.
5’9” at 200lbs and 22-25% BF.

Badgoat1's picture

Food, food, and more food. And I mean quality clean meals. You can add all the gear you want but without calories your muscles will not grow. But at your bodyfat I would not add more gear. Post up your diet and we can help. There used to be a guy here that was real good at diet advice but I haven't seen him in a bit. But his advice helped me get to 230lbs at 5'10 with abs.

snakeseyes150's picture

Thanks. For about a month or so I’ve been trying to eat as much as I could and keep
My protein high but it looks like a lot people are recommending to lose body fat so I will have to cut calories and probably won’t gain much muscle h til I’m done cutting.

steelrunner's picture

More test could help with gains but watch out for side effects. It’s about finding the sweet spot. NPP gets to work fast, good for bulking up. Primo's more about quality gains, less bloat. Depends on what you’re after.

press1's picture

Tbh your Bodyfat level is a little high to be adding more gear into the mix, try bring that down first and then probably the safest most effective compounds to add are either NPP or Masteron.

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snakeseyes150's picture

Thanks for your honesty. I’ll work on bringing my BF down.
Hoping not to lose much muscle doing so but since I’m on TRT, maybe I’ll retain more than my last cut.

DavosD's picture

You have 30 years experience lifting weights, yet you don't know how to gain muscle.

Your bodyfat % is too high, you don't know how to train and think adding more steroids is going to help you gain muscle.

You have no bussiness doing steroids. See a doctor maybe you can get trt. Stay healthy.

DavosD's picture

Adding to this since you negged me: at 700 total test you should be able to gain muscle and lose bodyfat...

Either your diet or training or both are not right. Post your diet and training for help on that.

snakeseyes150's picture

Sorry for the neg. I just felt like your answer was bashing me. I’m just looking for help.

Chad P's picture

Brother the majority of ppl here are gonna give u the hard, honest and objective truth. Most ppl think steroids are some magical potion and simply adding compounds or increasing dosages are the key to turning the corner. Discipline in your diet, training, rest and dedication to bettering yourself are the most important factors. Some of the best physiques you’ll see on here are guys that use compounds at low to moderate dosages just to compliment what they already have mastered. Stick around, listen and learn and you’ll grow from it.

DavosD's picture

Sorry I'm very direct (I'm dutch lol). We and I am more than willing to help gain muscle the right way. But I can't co-sign you using anything else than trt (from a doc) with that bf%.

Adding more steroids is not always the way to go when it comes to gaining muscle. There are many factors at play.

I took my neg away and gave you a +1 to get you at 0 karma again ;-)

snakeseyes150's picture

Thanks DavosD. I took the neg away as well.
I appreciate the help. I’m going to get an estimate of my TDEE using an online calculator. Then I’m going to either start at the TDEE or cut the calories by maybe 200g a day to see if I can lose any weight. I’ll try and keep my protein high and keep pushing in the gym to retain as much muscle as possible.

sandman3698's picture

His answer is pretty much the best answer. Figure out your diet and training. Figure it out to where you are making consistant gains.

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sandman3698's picture

Thats great. Joins a site and just starts negging mofos. Hilarious.

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DavosD's picture

Lol bad start of the eroids relationship.

It seems like these new guys come here to just hear what they want to hear and or for quick answers to difficult/complex questions.

I wonder where that entitled behaviour comes from because it's not gonna fly here...

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