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+ 11 ARE YOU TRULY READY TO RUN A CYCLE

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I have been on this site for just a few weeks and just like others I’ve seen the one constant here is young men wanting to run cycles without any real comprehension of what it truly involves. The one difference with Eroids is that there is an abundance of knowledge here that is available to any and all who want to run a cycle correctly. So with that said, let’s just cover the basic necessities. First and foremost are the stats, you know – weight, height, age, BF and cycle history. These particulars are extremely important because not only will they reveal if you are ready for one but also what type of cycle to run based on what your goals are. And if you’re like most young men that I’ve seen here, well YOU’RE NOT READY! However, don’t let this discourage you. The intent here is not to discourage but merely to enlighten and educate you. You see what you are about to do is completely unnatural and foreign to the function of your body. You are about to relieve your body of it’s ability to control your endocrine system and other body functions and place that control entirely into your hands. Yes, we are sort of playing the mad scientist. So then would it not be wise to make certain that we have done the abundance of research that is necessary and have all of the particulars covered. Of course there are a few what ifs that we just don’t know about also. What if my compounds are underdosed, overdosed, fake, unforeseen sides, fatigue, stress, mentally, physically and emotionally? What about my relationships, family and work? There are so many things to be considered and the main ones are as follows.
SOURCES, do you have a reliable and dependable source to order all of your compounds from?
PATIENCE, do we have the patience and knowledge that is required to run a cycle correctly and effectivel?.
FINANCE, are my monies in order because you are gonna have to get blood work before, during and after your cycle in order to monitor you levels and make adjustments where needed? You will need to have a proficient diet in place if you are to realize and maintain your gains and that takes cash.
DISCIPLINE, is a must for both diet and training because this is a lifestyle that requires you to adhere to a specific regimen of both.
REST, are you going to be able to get in the proper amount of sleep and time off that your muscles need in order to grow?
PHYSICAL-MENTAL are you ready both physically, mentally and emotionally to deal with the constraints and stress that could arise from the changes taking place in you body both OCT and PCT? Let’s not forget to factor the work place in also.
These are just a few points to consider before embarking on running a cycle and I’m sure that there a lot that I’ve missed. But the intention here is to raise the awareness level regarding the severity of running a cycle. This is not to be taken lightly because we only have one life and if we are going to alter it’s mechanism then we need to be damn well informed and prepared to make sure it runs correctly . As I stated earlier there is an abundance of knowledge here at Eroids that is being shared by those with experience so why not take advantage of it and learn all you possibly can then make a conscientious decision of the direction you want to take. There’s more to it than just pinning compounds and expecting to grow. It’s just as a few experienced ones here have said. It’s A Lifestyle!!!!!

tonymontanaa's picture

Even many years have passed the mentality behind this post still remains. I am new to community and do not hesitate to say that. I know that it takes a lot to reach a certain point in life.
NO PAIN NO GAIN is the motto but without knowing what you are doing, no logic to struggle.
I look for such posts to learn before starting sth crazy,
Thanks for info again.

Silent Mike's picture

Well im gonna smash a TEST CYP ONLY CYCLE

6ft
38
trained
medicinal theraputic amounts of hgh in past only.

week1-4 250mg pw
week5-8 500mg pw
week9-12 250mg pw

week13-14 nothing or a HCG bridge ??? any advice welcomed

week15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20
week15-18 clomide 100/100/50/50

any advice ???

robxl12321's picture

not the right place to post up a cycle proposal make your own forum with current stats not just age we need goals weight height age and bodyfat percentage. it will also help to have a current picture and a basic layout of your current diet and training. thanks bud

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PhD2RSCU's picture

Age: 28
Height:5'7"
Weight:230
BF%: 18%
Cycle:12 Weeks
1-12 Test E 250mg EW
1-12 Anastrozole .5mg EOD*
6-12 Test Prop 100mg E3D
6-12 Mast P 50mg E3D
6-12 Tren ACE 50mg E3D
*Anastrozole will be continued throughout PCT

PCT: 5 Weeks beginning 10days post final injection
Weeks 1-4 Nolva 40mg ED
Weeks 1-4 Clomiphene 100mg ED
Wekks 1-5 Anastrozole .5mg ED
Week 1- 4,500iu HCG (three times with a day in between each)
Week 2- 3,000iu HCG (three times with a day in between each)
Week 3- 1,500iu HCG (three times with a day in between each)

I will be starting with a 4-6 week natural prep to condition my body to the new nutritional protocol as well as try to get down into a more manageable BF%. I have run three cycles in the past (all with the same pct because I believe it's better to be overly cautious than under and as a result have, so far, avoided any kind of gyno). All my previous cycles before were performance oriented. My first was nonsensically oral based and just... awful. Anyway, since then my cycles have been performance centric in order to maximize my endurance without submitting my strength. I have been a competitive crossfit athlete (like regional games qualifier, not weekend warrior at the local box). I'm now just looking to compete, have just come off a mass cycle, and am running this cut cycle. I put on a little more fat than I would have liked, so I'm going to bring it down a bit naturally as stated before. I'm also going to run a protein juice cleanse for a week before my first pin. I would LOVE any feedback from the forums.

DfromPhilly's picture

no one told this guy not to run HCG during PCT? HCG is suppressive buddy. On cycle and leading up to pct is fine (and in a lot of cases even a good idea), but the second you pop that first clomid/nolva, tell the HCG to kick rocks.

Also, this may be just a matter of opinion but it looks high too. I don't have a lot of experience with HCG, and by not a lot I mean zero, but everything from my research sounds like 250iu twice a week on cycle and leading up to pct will be enough to keep your boys plump and prepare for a soft landing into PCT. (and don't forget that HCG can elevate estrogen)

ALSO, Anastrozole can inhibit nolva and clomid. Exemestane for PCT purposes. (you can on cycle too, personal preference there really)

ALSO, update your age in your profile

and finally, looks like you need to do just a bit more research. decent start, but you clearly haven't researched EVERY SINGLE substance you planned on putting into your body and how they react on their own, in you, and with each other. That leads me to believe that you may have missed a few other things too.

johnmarshall12's picture

Your HCG levels are INSANE!

DfromPhilly's picture

My HCG levels? What? 250iu twice a week on cycle?

This post was from 2 years ago but I’ve used this protocol woh great success. And plump balls

JARHEAD2's picture

Lol... me too bro

Clarion's picture

Really great article. thank you for the input! I am new to all of this and didn't really factor all this in. It's great to have some sort of perspective to be in place. I always thought that doing a cycle wouldn't have that much impact on a persons life. Now after reading this it gives me a lot more to think about. Especially that I also read that doing a cycle I will just shrink back down after a run. I have a lot more reading to do....

PhD2RSCU's picture

I think that pretty much sums it up doesn't it? Put in the work and effort to research those specific compounds that you've already spent what I can only assume was too much money. Also, I would highly recommend that your first proper cycle NOT be Sustanon! Run a simple Test E cycle first. You'll only have to pin once a week at a minimal 250mg dose given that you're as heavy as a sack of potatoes and a pocket full of change (no offense). Research aromatase inhibitors, selective estrogen receptor modulators, test boosting aromasin, etc. A lot of people on here have put in a ton of work and time for themselves to insure that their own cycles are right for their own bodies. You need to do the same.

muscles247's picture

I don't think alot people understand what all we have to do we don't just take a shot go workout and get bigger it doesn't work like that!!!! People just need to get educated on it then once they are firmilar with it then start thinking about it.....that's just my opinion!

Makwa's picture

At 150 lbs anything but food is too much for you.

cybrsage's picture

Diet first, then proper exercise routine, then wait and hit your limits naturally, THEN use science to help you go further. Only in that order does it work properly.

eroverman's picture

I'm not a young man, but I am new to all this. I am excited about gaining the extra knowledge needed yo keep my health at an acceptable level. I do have children, and a wife that I would like to be around for, for many years to come.

I have done, and will continue to do research into cycles before I step into them. Sometimes I may come off harsh, I'm just very aware of what I am seeking, and the fact that I sometimes learn better by hands on experience. That mind set is something I am trying to break, especially when talking about injecting a foreign substance into my body. Forgive me..

An accusation was made about me looking for any drugs to put into my system, that is just mind blowing to me considering my background, but hey I understand. You don't know me, and nor do I know you. Is this forum not meant for education, and help!?

Anyway, I am looking forward to more articles like this one to help me on this journey.

Baby Herc's picture

Awesome read. Gotta Get your mind Right.....

Irishguy68's picture

Getting ready to start my first cycle and was looking for some input on what you guys think about it. I'm 46 yrs old, 5' 9" and 225 lbs. BF is 17%. Diet could be better but I'm eating as clean as possible right now. Been training since I was 15. My T Level is around 250 and Feel like I need a kick in the ass. Here is what I was thinking of running:

Week 1-12 500 mg Test E split into 2 pins Mon & Thurs
Week 1-6 25 mg Dbol ED
Week 13-14 0.5 mg Arimidex EOD
Week 15-17 40/40/20 ED Nolvadex

I welcome any suggestions or input!

ironworker's picture

Sound ok for a first cycle. I would shorten the Dbol jump start to 4 weeks though keep an eye on how your body responds to it as it aromatizes very fast. That being said, I wouldn't wait until the 13th week to take your AI. I always start my AI (ADex or usually aromasin) when I start my Dbol since I'm prone to gyno. Do some more research in your pct brother. I start my pct 2 weeks after my last pin and usually incorporate nolva and clomid together depending on how suppressive my cycle is. Hope this helps. Let me know how it is going.

Spike Fremont's picture

Great post, food for thought. I'm 51 years old, 6'2" and 190 pounds, nattty so far. My BIA BF is 19, but my Jackson Pollock 3 site with calipers is 14 percent, not bad for an old man. Been lifting off and on for thirty years, but hitting it hard in the last nine months. Been on creatine, whey and casein for the last nine months and am going to cycle when I get gear in the mail. So i'm down from 218 and 26 percent, diet is okay, not great. Going to do 500 mg of test cyp, 75 of tren, with hcg, Adex, and Proscar.

Is this realistic? How much can I expect to gain in ten weeks? Am I missing anything?

I lift three to four times a week. Should I do Hiit on this cycle?

I know I should max this out, but just looking for advice and encouragement..

Thanks!

vhman's picture

500 mg of test cyp, 75 of tren, with hcg, Adex, and Proscar.

NO!!!! Tren is the most advanced aas and has a laundry list of sides and should NEVER be used by a novice.
Keep reading the other yellow highlighted forums about first cycles.
They usually consist of test-e or c, an AI and a proper PCT. That's it. One compound at a time, so you know how your body reacts to that. I even say that you should stick to test only for two or three cycles.
Put some reading in and then post up your proposed cycle in the cycle log and let us help you fine tune it.

Vick404's picture

Dame bro that was mad review if u are or not and it's true I wasn't ready when I did my first run like 5-6 yrs ago .. Now that I am older I do put all that into play.. Now I am ready to make a real run what do you think is good on a bulking cycle

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Don't know if you've found the answer or not, but a good rule of thumb is 15 % or lower. Some compounds you will need to be lower than that to get the full benefits. The lower you can get the better.

noob143's picture

This helps all the new people who will listen to advice. So many noobs don't do enough research before using these extremely powerful hormones. I myself listened to someone who told me all the wrong advice. I came to this site and was literally broken down and am in the process of being rebuilt. I've found so much knowledge so easily here. And this article is so simple but so necessary to understand before doing a cycle. Thanks for the help. Bro

chinodg's picture

Hey i dont know if im posting in the right topic but i want to know i started using AAS for my second time 2 weeks ago and i started a new job at night im barely training,.. i wanted to know should i do PCT if i am considering to terminate the cycle.. is that even possible to do ? can i just stop cold turkey? ive been doing prop 3x a week for 2 weeks now. going on my third week today but i havent pinned and im worried that if i stop i might mess up my body..

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Repost this on the forum you started. The one where we told you to stop cycle then.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol............. History repeats itself AGAIN.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

They can run, but they can't hide.

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Fieldsems's picture

Wow!! New to the site but not the Game. That is about the best post I've read. Guys too often overlook the importance of macro nutrition and mental health. Get your food and head right and all is good.

Chonmoreno's picture

Great post! I like to see that experienced people take time out if their lives to teach and educate others like myself. I will cycle eventually, but I just joined to educate myself better and make a better decision when the time comes. Thank you!

aesthetics92's picture

I agree. I'm in the same boat as you prolonging my cycle for about another 3 or 4 months, and I'm glad there are places like this where I can become as informed as I want/need to be in order to cycle safely!

Jay99's picture

Im new to the post and I have been reading for months now. I went ahead and got all the essentials and am ready to try the first cycle. Im not in any rush. These types of posts remind me to take my time and keep gathering information.

dazb80's picture

What stuff you going for?

zealous's picture

Are there any medical doctors on here who specialize in monitoring cycles, prescribing steroids, etc.? That would be helpful.

CletusEugene's picture

Great post. I'm in sponge mode right now trying to soak up as much as I can from veterans. Thanks for your time writing information like this.

Gixxer151's picture

Is good to know all this , I'm new to this and want to start my very first cycle and getting all the knowledge possible to do it safe or right way. Thank you for this post really helps and alerts us newbies

dks07dfsu's picture

A+++

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