week 4 of cycle, lethargic
4 weeks in on cycle..... 600 mg test blend cyp and e. 300 mg mast, split up M.W.F.,,, 250 ui. HCG M.W.F.,,,50mg. var ed. Up 10 lbs 213 from 203. so far starting to get some acne, libido is strong, gym pumps are great, training 5 days a week, stay hungry diet is good. Dragn ass though, lethargic AF, since about week 2 no other estro signs. going in for bloods next week. I have aromasin on hand was hoping not to have to use since i have mast in the mix. Don't know if the lethargy is estro side or from working over time in the gym. been sleeping a solid 7 to 8 hrs a night good rest, but wake up tired and drag ass all day, usually drink a pot of coffee too. My question is should I go ahead and throw the aromasin in the mix? and see how I feel or wait on bloods. Also my first cycle besides TRT. Thanks in advance for the input.
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Orals are notorious for lethargy. That would be my first guess if throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. Don't be adding stuff in until you confirm you need it with bloodwork.
I think the bloods will help you. It could be e2 with the HCG. I personally dont use HCG while on cycle but thats just preference.
I should also add that I feel pretty lethargic on Var so if bloods come back fine then I would drop the Var to see if that works
I've read using HCG should be 2 weeks post, prior to PCT.
B12 injection should help
Rustyhooker600mg test
750 hcg
Holy crap your estro gotta be insane!
Click my avatar....check my bloods forum.....aromasin 6.25 ed and test bloods next week. DROP THAT HCG
Hcg on cycle is like flicking a light switch for a broken bulb. Boosts that estro though.....ka-pow
says 403 denied, when i went to your bloods forum
TricepatopsGet bloods before adding Aromasin. You have no idea what it is and someone saying it is high e2 levels with no other side except being tired makes no sense. That seems like the smart move. Listen to Makwa
RustyhookerOops....this work?
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/when-to-test-bloods
And
https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/various-topics/privatemdlabs...
works! i have had the first one booked marked and damn near memorized already for awhile lol. Sooo... I have been pondering taper alot too. So i'm planning on running 12 weeks on the above dose before PCT. My question is when do I need to start taper and what dose from beginning to end do you recommend on test p?
RustyhookerAlso my first cycle besides TRT
Ummmm.....no pct sir.
was wanting to cycle off and try to reset. Been on trt since last september. my test levels before trt were 400. free test was low tho. After reading alot on here feel like the dr. sold me a dream. And foook i know should have weaned of trt first before cycle.
TricepatopsWhy? Just curious if you are on TRT why wean? Bro it is going to be hard as hell to do a PCT being on that long. It can happen my buddy had 2 kids after a 3 year cycle. He was very stupid but he is on TRT for life now. He never could get it much over baseline but it also took clomid, HCG, Nolvadex for months to get back to that low of a level. All this was prescribed by his fertility doctor. TRT seems great first but after years of pinning it does get old and you also have to watch your DHEA levels and Pregnenolone levels. Mine were literally 0 after years of TRT. That's where HCG comes in so it backfills you can say the DHEA and pregnenolone. With those low bro you feel like you have no energy and bad brain fog and just don't feel like you first did when on TRT.
The pinning doesn't bother me. I didn't feel bad before trt. Honestly felt like i plateaued in the gym and was looking for gains before trt and before I landed here.
RustyhookerAhhhh!!!! High five then for reset.
Basskilleronline had a reset pct posted. Hcg blast 2 weeks with ai then 6 week full pct. I liked low 6.25 aro into first week of pct.
I'll look for it. ty
I went in the Clinic looking for peptides and got sold on trt while i was there, this was before i found eroids..
I know Im married to trt for life if reset doesn't work, but i wanna try
TricepatopsAren't you on TRT? If so no need for PCT
I hope my question makes sense. And I have looked around the site some for answers, didn't want to bug before doing some research, but I've looked some and haven't found anything solid I may have not been looking in the right place though.
Oh yeah, trust me Your words about flicking the switch on just for a second on cycle have stayed in my mind since i first read it awhile back. Started the HCG last week had to drop my boys back down and fill up. Will definitely dive back in and reread everything
Were the Orals in this cycle from the place where everything is not always what it seems to be?
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How’s your BP? Walking up tired indicates a non restful sleep. Wait on the bloods. I’m not a fan of throwing drugs after an undiagnosed problem except say if your nips got puffy.
bp checked good at dr. last monday. don't remember numbers though
You taking any cycle support supps for liver protection? Var is mild on liver , but if it's something else that could be the reason why your feeling lethargic. Elevated alt and ast.
None, I was just thinking about that too. Any recommendations?
NAC, tudca
TricepatopsWait on bloods. Sure Var is real Var? Sometimes it is faked. First cycle bro should really be just test but since you been running it on TRT you should know how body reacts but should of only added mast or var. Both are DHT type of steroids. Could be the Anavar it is listed as a side effect and many other reports of users being lethargic on it.
Planned on dropping the var week 5. may drop it early and see.