Questions about either low dose dbol or low dose tren
Hello, I’m 27 years old and have done 2 previous cycles in my life. First was just test e and second was test and mast, the mast gave me bad cystic acne and I had to drop it. I don’t aromatize easily and hardly needed an ai in my previous cycles. I have some test e and Anavar coming, I was thinking ab saving the var for the last half of my cycle to cut but the first half id like to put on as much mass as possible before cutting. I was considering low dose dbol, because I am in an amazing relationship and don’t want to fuck it up using tren. I would love to try tren but I already am kind of a douche sometimes and I feel like adding tren into the mix would absolutely ruin my relationship. Would a very low dose of tren give me the bad mental sides everyone talks about experiencing? If even a low dose would do that to me then I’d want to try dbol but I don’t want to have the high estrogenic side effects and the water retention and bloating. Would running a very low dose put mass on me without crazy estrogen sides? And would running test and dbol make my estrogen shoot through the roof? What would be the proper way to run this cycle and how would I properly manage estrogen?
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I didn’t even consider getting on Testosterone until I was in my early 50’s, I for sure didn’t need it in my 20’s, you are 27 why are you taking steroids? I’m sure your body is producing enough testosterone of its own. All you young people taking PEDS now, even under the guise of “TRT” won’t be able to take anything by the time your 50.
To be devils advocate.. I would rather just be on nothing or therapeutic range when I’m 50. I’d rather push it late 20s/30s while I can tolerate it better, along with the training. Not that I would quit in older age, but I’m sure it will be toned back to just maintain health. NOT justifying what this guy is talking about at all, lol.
Hey bro, it’s a free country. I just know that these guys are a lot closer to being the “50 something” in the room than they think lol and trust me when your 50 the last thing your going to be thinking about is cruising lol, you are going to be doing everything you do now except better, especially when you have health. I’m 56 and damn near back to where I was at when I was 23. Of course Father Time is undefeated but these tools and busting your ass in the gym gives you the advantage our fathers definitely didn’t have. I don’t knock anybody but I really wish these young guys would wait until they need this stuff. I was throwing up some serious weight when I was a kid, I just hope he’s careful. Now if he’s a body builder and this is his way to the bag then by all means, even now with the gear I still rely on eating the right food, running the right program in the gym and still learning, even at 56. Trust me my man when your 50 you will STILL be getting laid, traveling and doing it big because trust and believe you will have more disposable income, (or you should unless you slipped up along the way lol) I am way more popping at the age, my wife is hot AF and life is good, so trust me 50 is not what you might think it is, it’s what you decided it’s going to be.
Well said! You are right, most younger guys are willing to run around without thinking about how quick that time comes and it’s awesome to hear that you’ve still got gas in the tank, hopefully I can say the same when I get there!
: 07/30/1999
Weight: 175
Height: 6ft
Body Fat: 18%
You can help his stats?? @Jrb97
It’s 2026 and we can still only add girth, not length..
Steroids don’t add mass. Eating a lot, lifting a lot, and sleeping a lot add mass.
You’re worried about Tren causing aggression and bad mental sides because you’re already a douche (your words) with a pregnant girlfriend but at the same time you’re willing to inject Testosterone (which is a hormone that can I don’t know… cause extra aggression) ?
“Would running test and dbol make my estrogen shoot through the roof?” “What would be the proper way to run this cycle and how would I properly manage estrogen?” Only you can answer these questions with blood work.
You need to spend a lot of time reading and educating yourself more before hopping on anything.
I have never gotten aggression from test, even at 600 mg a week. My body responds well to it, I have my diet and training dialed in or else I wouldn’t be hopping on anything as it would be a waste. The only reason I was iffy about tren is it is notorious for causing aggression and paranoia. I am eating as much as I can and I am putting on mass, but not at the rate I’d like to. The other commenters have made me realize that now is not the time to try tren, maybe sometime in the future if I’m single
Dude.....be real with us
: Weight: 175...Height: 6ft...Body Fat: 18%
You're 145lbs lean....
You should only be using Trenbolone if you are going into a Powerlifting or Bodybuilding competition and you have already exhausted all other steroids available. You don't run Trenbolone because some Faggot Influencer on Youtube hikes your interest in it by releasing click bait videos on it.
His stats put him in a bad spot. +1
IMA HOPPON DAT DIK
I would not use tren in this situation tren with raise your aggression significantly not worth I would worry about your pregnant girlfriend, if u want to put on size I would use 250-350 test per week 200 deca and 15-20mg dbol you will fill great and not have to deal with the many side effects that come with tren. Low dose dbol make me feel good and u will be surprised how little u need to put on size, focus on training drop the weight and do the reps slow u will be surprised how well this works make me grow significantly oh and focus on diet, good luck and don’t use tren not worth it and if u are set on using it u can always use it down the road good luck and all the best and congrats on becoming a knew father that’s awesome.
If I was taking low dose dbol, 15 mg or under would I need to run an ai with it? Should I run it by itself or with test? I see everywhere that I research they talk about running it the incorrect way which leads to high estrogen and bloating but what would be the correct way to run it
I can’t answer that bud we are all different when I was your age I see 200mg test a week 100 deca and 15 dbol and I grew like a weed also if doing 10 week cycle always take same or more time of. It’s always good to take time off we always experimented but with low doses and never knew anyone run tren unless u was a hard core trainer and competed at a high level these hormones are powerfull and time flies so treat your body well. Sorry I can’t help more
Yeah very true. It’s not worth it and I have realized that, if I’m ever single I’ll try it for sure but now isn’t the time. Thank you for the suggestions, I will definitely do more research into deca, I just don’t want the infamous deca dick lol. Hell if anything I’ll just stick to test and var, I know you can get a very good physique on test alone. And thank you I am really looking forward to being a father
Bro if u gonna try tren first time
DO TREN BASE it gives the effect of being on tren ace 50mgs a day ,and this is because tren base is out of your system in 8-12 hrs and u are able to sleep canceling many sides such as high blood pressure anxiety paranoia everyone is different
And tren loves estrogen 10-20mgs dbol will due but if u Wana skip the bloat and have mass with class and still look lean injectable dbol is the way too go
Whats difference between injectable vs oral dbol?
Big difference hardly any water weight on injectable dbol clean gains
Heard that. Thank you.
The other commenters put things into perspective for me, if I’m ever single I’ll try it and take your advice. I’ll look into injectable dbol, but honestly might just stick to test and var this cycle.
Bas doesn't live that long
Bro just try it u will still get the same effect if on tren ace 50mgs a day
The only side effect I get from tren ace is trenssomia and it starts the same day I pin
Tten base sleep is as if normal my cpap tells me lol
On tren ace I wake up 25xs a hour
Tren base 3-5 times per hour
I think i broke a world record 91events(wokeup) in 38 minutes
So dieing looks legit.....
You see the op?'s stats???
27yrs old? Dying was legit before the cpap
The Doctor said 220lbs at 5'7 is gonna cause obstructive air way
Lose 70lbs he said and no cpap
150lbs ? That sounds right for a lerson being 5'7
JESUS LMAO!!! So you stopped breathing 91 times?
Yeah the tren ace will fuck u up but ppl dont know because most if not all dont own a cpap machine
I've had a few occasions where I've woken up and clearly I was holding my breath as I was breathless - it only tends to happen though when my BP is high. If I take my BP meds then never happens, weird.
Yeah bro I feel u on that before my cpap I would dream that I was drowning
My point tren ace will fuck u up causes sleep apnea which without a machine u gonna suffer more im old 42
10yrs ago I could take tren ace 100mgs a day for 4 months and sleep 6 hrs straight
Dbol is no joke when it comes to estrogen. Start slow even if you think you’re a low aromtiser. Your tits or lack of tits will thank you.
Sounds like you aren’t in need of tren and it’s more shiny object syndrome. I would say make sure training and diet are locked in before jumping to tren. My 19 nor of choice is deca. I haven’t personally touched tren so I’m not gonna speak to it.
Yeah shiny object syndrome is definitely the words to describe it. Social media especially puts it up on this pedestal like it’s the greatest anabolic out there, but I’ve realized now probably isn’t the time to try it
What do you consider low dose? I’m currently 9 days into 35mg weekly Tren ace and am having zero sides, I just feel incredible. I wanted to start low to see how I handle Tren, going to up to 70mg now.
Only one way to find out…just try tren. If you notice changing of emotions then just stop but it’s not like you’re gonna inject it then suddenly wanna start killing people lol. Anavar isn’t known for bulking, dbol absolutely raises estrogen. I would just do test , hgh and tbol. Tbol won’t raise estrogen, and it is more powerful than anavar,
I fukn love tbol. Nice clean, steady gains.
Glad to see a man of culture. Someone who appreciates tbol. Seems to be lacking appreciation in this forum! lol
Same, what kinda doses do you run? I did 100mg a day last time. I’m thinking about trying 150 maybe 200 next
Lol most Ive ever run is 50mg/day for 45 days. Loved it.
Honestly I might just say fuck it and try tren. I’m just overthinking it bc my old roommate was on tren and test and he beat the shit out of his gf, and my girlfriend is pregnant and she is the most amazing girl I’ve ever met. I just don’t want to fuck up a good thing. But there’s no denying the amazing results that tren will give you.
There’s tons of people taking tren that look like shit. Tren does not inherently equal amazing results. For every one person that looks amazing due to Tren, id be willing to bet there’s 100 more that look like sad sacks of milk. Even though they’re hammering 600-800 mg of Tren e.
Look at my pictures. I haven’t touched a Tren cycle. Do with that info what you will.
What a dawg
Do not try tren in that scenario. You don't need to be fucking with your hormones like that while your S.O. is also a hormonal mess.
If you had already had prior experience with 19-nor or tren specifically and knew how you were going to react, it would be a different story, but your NUMBER ONE JOB right now is to maintain a level and predictable headspace for your pregnant GF.
Tren will still be there later, I promise.
Yeah very good point. She’s worth more than any anabolic and right now is not the time to do experiments when if it goes wrong it really goes wrong. Thank you for putting things into perspective for me
Great answer milf, and I 100% agree, this doesn’t sound like the right time to run a tren experiment, and since dude has no prior experience with 19nors, sounds like the recipe for shit to go sideways quick.
Thankies boo
No....1 oral or liver gets taxed.
True. I know dbol is hard on your liver and var is bad for it too. I’ve heard of people running both in a cycle so that’s why I was asking, but you’re probably right. Should I try a low dose of tren or just stick to the test and var
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This comes down to effort and foods sir. Gear only repairs muscles that exert great force. Be safe!