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Alright I’ve been researching for the last year getting prepared for my first cycle. I plan on having more kids so this cycle is built around that. Since this is my first cycle I intend on only doing test and hcg to preserve my swim team. Let me know what you guys think. And to answer any questions my workout routine and diet is very much dialed in and has been for the last three years.
I’ve done some pre lab work to get my base
I also won’t give up past pct and stay locked into my diet and training and plan on optimizing my time then and afterwards to keep the muscle after I come off
Plan on doing blood work at week 6 and after pct is over
16 weeks
1-16
Mon/wed/fri
100mg test e 250iu hcg
17-18
Mon/wed/dri
250iu hcg
19-20
Daily 25mg enclo
Maybe 20mg nolvadex if estrogen sides
21-22
Daily 12.5mg enclo
Maybe 10mg nolvadex if started last two weeks
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You could probably get away with twice weekly pins. Pinning virgin muscle 3x a week is probably gonna catch up to you pretty quick. Assuming you pin ventro glute, quads and delts you're gonna be hurting all over in a hurry. I'm not sure if you took into account your pinning locations before hand, but definitely something to consider. Virgin muscle PIP can be a real barn burner.
Also if ur gonna get on gear, you might as well do 500mg/wk. @300 you're gonna get all the same sides with less results.
After some thinking I’m gonna ditch the hcg and just run 500 test
He is brand new man, he has never done a cycle before. He needs to see how his body reacts first. 300mg will do plenty for him as a new gear virgin. Also estrogen, dont worry about it ndawgok, that is why you have an Ai on hand so if sides of estrogen appear you take an Ai. You will get estrogen even at 300mg a week.
Forgot to mention but I am ordering some arimdex.
I split the jabs into three out of worry of estrogen spiking with bigger jabs. That’s also why I didn’t go with 500 because two jabs of 250 sounds like I’m begging for estrogen to spike. I could rationalize two 150 jabs though
300 is a nice amount. If someone like me, 500 would have you looking like a bag of milk.
jakobpeterhonestly this is one of the most sensible first cycle plans i have seen on here in a long time. most guys just blast a gram of gear and pray their junk still works later lol so good on u for thinking about the kids. running hcg from the jump is definitely the way to go to keep the lights on downstairs. my only advice is dont be surprised if u feel like u want to stay on forever once that test kicks in... the "keep the gains" part during pct is the hardest mental battle youre gonna face. stay consistent with the bloodwork and u should be golden man good luck with the swim team!!
Thanks bro
Imo blast 500 if you're going to shut yourself down with 300 either way.
I’m ordering enough test to do 750 a week at 16 weeks but I’m worried about estrogen spiking so I don’t wanna do 500. I would consider if I could do three jabs a week but also was warned of pip so I feel like two 150 jabs is safer than two 250 in terms of avoiding the need of an ai and/or nolvadex
Just watch your e2, regulate how you feel with its corresponding value and use your AI.
I'm pinning 125MG 25ga 1" EOD delts, glutes, quads, all virgin muscle at the time, pip might effect you different but it's barely noticeable for me. Thinking of opening up pinning my lats next
You are doing your first cycle if you are only taking 100mg of Test E a week that won't do shit, if you are saying its 3x a week then fine. Also you will still be able to have kids on it taking HCG, My buddy just got his girl pregnant while blasting all because I had him get on some hcg.
You should have blood work done before you start to get base line labs then do some after a month or so.
My baseline is
SHBG 30
Total test 723
Free 110.9
242 Available
With cmp and cbc all in green
Yes I meant 300 a week just three pins though
300 total test and 750iuHcg weekly right? Just making sure I'm reading that correctly. Do you plan on trying to have kids during cycle or during that post cycle cool down? Many are still able to have kids at those levels you're taking i don't think you'd have to come off completely, cruising at a TRT level with HCG (maybe a switch for HMG) still in protocol would allow for that without having to do all the PCT extras. Just my 2 cents
Not planning on having kids anytime during cycle or pct just don’t want to make myself infertile is the main thing and also would like an easier time recovering so hcg is important to me
If you're not planning on having kids during that time then you 100% should look into cruising instead of PCT there's really no reason to PCT until you want to start trying for kids. Watch some vigorous steve videos on youtube regarding fertility, these guys are doing 2/3 grams of gear blasts and still having kids with these protocols.
Will do thanks
Edit: would you also say hcg during my cruise or just watch the videos and they will answer?
Keep the HCG in year round during blasts and cruises, but watch the videos as well. I would recommend going on a binge watching his videos, very informative he constantly brings on industry leaders on these subjects I THOUGHT I knew what I was doing with AAS until I started watching and learning more. Easy to knock out a video during your cardio sessions.
Thank you for the help I’ll be sure to watch these when I’m not skipping cardio. Not but seriously I’ll watch them