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+ 1 First cycle any advice much appreciated

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Hi im new to all this, but just wondering could any one have a look at the first cycle im planning and let me no there thoughts
Thanks guys

Stats
Age 35
5ft 7
80kg
About 17%bf (will be less before cycle)
Training for about 2 years

This is what i had planned to do

Weeks 1-12: 400mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 200mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)

Weeks 1-14: 0.25mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)

Weeks 5-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)

PCT starts week 14, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Was thinking on anavar only cycle also before test e just to get a little more lean and get bf as low as possible
But not sure on doing it?

Cheers

ONESICK's picture

This isn't popular but for a first cycle I suggest titrate up to 400mg. I get people like to blast right away but you'll reduce the amount of sides from the get go if you work to the 400 over several weeks. Just a suggestion. Because getting 400 from the get go on your first run that's a lot of T your body isn't used to. Often newbies get unwanted sides and hop on AIs.

Tradesman34's picture

I've only used anavar at the end of my cycle and have had good experience with it. I wouldnt however use it just alone. I would use it paired with a test of some sort.

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JEX30Sex's picture

If you're insistent on taking Anavar try the last 4 weeks of your cycle. I'm not super experienced but I had really good results with it that way. Had 8 weeks to figure out how my body was reacting to the test and then ease yourself into that Anavar. Start with 20mg the first week then raise it 10mg a week after that. Starting off with 50 mg is a great way to get unbelievably painful cramps.

Nattyboomba's picture

I think what everyone has said here covers most of it. The HCG will not be very useful in this way, I think. It’ll raise estrogen & its positive effects will have worn off by the time you walk into PCT. Using it as a bridge into PCT is likely a better option. The addition of Clomid for PCT will be helpful & dropping body fat % a bit before initiating this cycle will increase your chances of a successful cycle. Lastly, with an ester like enanthate, you’ll want to wait longer than 2 weeks to begin your PCT. Closer to 5 weeks in fact. Given the half life, you’ll still be too saturated for your PCT compounds to do much good in the beginning. I would hang back on the Anavar, and just see how you respond to test. It is the foundation of all good cycles because of its strength & versatility. Once you have a bit of experience with test, how your body converts it to estrogen & what other effects you experience - you’ll be better able to plan your future cycles.

simonmagus84's picture

No, do it naturally before using anything.

Makwa's picture

Anavar isn't a fat burner. Maybe you should think about adjusting your diet instead.

simonmagus84's picture

Hcg is going to raise estro and 400 mgs is already a higher dose. Why not substitute hcg for proviron ? Save hcg for your pct

simonmagus84's picture

Delay the cycle 6 weeks and drop about 3 to 4 % body fat. You also need to incorporate Clomid for pct.

Your nolva protocol is fine

Wk 1-2 100mg Clomid
Wk 3-4 50 mg Clomid

JakeKO's picture

Great first cycle, although you definitely don’t need that much Anastrozole. Save it for the end of the cycle and only use it in the early weeks if you feel signs of estrogen increase. If you take it right out of the gate, you won’t ever know how your body reacts to testosterone. Some guys don’t need Arimadex at all. Meanwhile, it’s critical that I have it on hand. If I feel my nipple get itchy, or painful in the slightest way, I take one. If the sides disappear after the first pill, I stop taking it. Taking too much can crash your estrogen and cause you bigger issues. Good luck!

kinda fit kinda fat's picture

Yah man, I’d just take an AI if my nipps would start to get sensitive. If you’re waking up with morning wood thats also a good sign of your E not being tanked. Proper bloods are the sure fire way of managing your shit tho. Good luck on the cycle!

Makwa's picture

Surefire way to crash estro taking that much AI right off the bat.