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Hey all, pretty new here but enjoying the community so far!

I'm a fat guy and am currently working to lose a bunch of weight, started at 308lbs at the end of March, down to 278lbs today. I'm using Reta but counting calories and have been hitting the gym 5-6 times a week since I started and I'm hooked. It helps that I'm a pretty broad / strong guy so the newbie gains have been great.

While I'd love to put on a bunch of lean mass, my big goal right now is protecting the muscle I have while I lose another ~80lbs, and so I'm looking to dip my toes in to things to help my chances. This is the stack I've put together that I'm thinking of going with:

  • Reta - Currently on 4mg bumping to 6mg this weekend
  • Enclomiphene - 12.5mg per day, adjusting based on levels. The wife and I want kids sometime soon, I like the boost without fucking with my sperm production.
  • HGH - 2 IU's per day
  • Tadalafil - 5mg per day

Looking for any advice people have, what to expect, anything you think I'm missing? The fertility issue is what's stopping me from other compounds that would probably do a better job protecting against muscle loss, gotta keep the boys working lol.

Appreciate any input anybody has!

Big Paul's picture

Bro it's no a sprint, you lost over 30lbs in a month and bit. Great going

If your number one goals is your fertility and getting your partner pregnant I wouldn't be adding heavy compounds in.

Hope it goes well for you keeping grinding

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Darkhorse777's picture

Get on trt run hmg hcg to keep up sperm also freeze some.now ..if that's not what you want you can add a dht primo.. mast ..eq super low ...instead of ai better for you cholesterol most the time and if you get shut down which you probably won't you have a shit tonw of frozen so your covered and you get the excuse to try a bunch of your shooting blanks ..it's a win win ... And the gear besides the test would be super low as an ai... That's what I would do .... Don't waste time messing about

Hades1977's picture

Bro add low dose tren, 20mg EOD and your golden. I did the same stack minus the enclomaphene and lost 50lbs while actually adding a little muscle. Was also taking 150mg test.Went from 270 to 220 and feel amazing.

Massa Ron's picture

This is the type of dumb shit that makes people question the first amendment.

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Hades1977's picture

Hahahhaa

Spool's picture

This is awful advice but I would probably do the same thing but with 50mg/wk on the Ace. And 125-175 on the Test. Forget all the other stuff. It’s okay, I’m a moron sometimes too just glad others got here before I did.

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Hades1977's picture

Let’s fucking goooooo

Darkhorse777's picture

Gtfo worst advice ever your a fucking moron be gone

Petecastiglione's picture

No, there is no reason to add tren in this

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Milfpounder's picture

Jesus Christ. Terrible advice.

Hades1977's picture

Hahah look at that, all the blowhards comment at once. Worked for me, hate on, I could care less… lmao.

Milfpounder's picture

Post body pic and bloods.

Just cause ur a fat 50 year old that didn't die from running tren at damn near 300 lbs doesn't mean you have any room to suggest to someone else to do the same.

Hades1977's picture

Hahahaha go cry about it… I’m 6”1” 220 and look great, not about to do a god damn thing you or your loser friends ask.. Hahahahaha

Milfpounder's picture

Ur 6' 240 according to your profile. Which one is a lie?

That tren make you grow an inch too?

sandman3698's picture

Your like an asshole magnet..... the wrong kind.

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Hades1977's picture

Just a regular guy, trying to be the best he can be!! Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha

Milfpounder's picture

Fuck I just ran outta thumbs... Hahahaha

Hades1977's picture

In this thread, milfpounder, just a regular guy trying to be the best he can be! Hahahahahahahaha

sandman3698's picture

And? Thats just about all of us and that's just about all anyone can do.... soooo whats so funny?

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Hades1977's picture

I’m dead… hahahahahaa just looked at your profile. According to milfpounder your a fat fuck. Be the best you can be… hahahahahahahaha

Milfpounder's picture

I'm gonna take a wild guess here that my man @sandman3968 actually has some muscles.

And that you don't.

sandman3698's picture

And? My profile pic IS my pic. Don't tell anyone.

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Hades1977's picture

When I made the acct I was 240 brainiac. Sorry wasn’t too concerned with height accuracy. You are just a beacon of brilliance aren’t ya? Hahahaha Why don’t you stick to “being a regular guy and being the best you can be” like your loser ass profile states… lmao hahahahah

Hades1977's picture

“Just be the best you can be” - milfpounder Hahahahahahahahahaha

Milfpounder's picture

hahaha

Hades1977's picture

Hahahaha here comes your boyfriends to save you again. Bro, you’re a loser, just face it, been a loser your whole life. It’s ok, be the best you can be! Hahahahahahaha

sandman3698's picture

A loser.... with a bunch of friends to have his back.... something about that sounds off....

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Hades1977's picture

Birds of a feather flock together my friend… you got a lot to learn.

Milfpounder's picture

Aw shucks man... I think you were like one of the first guys I talked to on here. Love ya pal.

sandman3698's picture

Oh I love you too Milky.

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Hades1977's picture

Couldn’t be farther from the truth but whatever makes you and your loser buddies feel better.

Milfpounder's picture

This dude is probably RAGING in his trailer home right now. Headbutting the walls n shit.

Wish I could watch.

Hades1977's picture

Actually I’m chilling in my beautiful home with my georgeous wife in bed, bout to be the best I can be. Hahahahahahahahahhahah loser

Milfpounder's picture

I literally am crying laughing at an event where laughing out loud is not okay...

Hades1977's picture

You think of that all by yourself? Honestly, you really posted that thinking that was the death blow? IHahahahahahha y’all are to easy. Lmao

sandman3698's picture

Dude, no ones buying it.

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Hades1977's picture

Dude… I could care less… lol

Hades1977's picture

Goodnight boys. Good times. Just know, you guys ain’t shit, but a couple of eroids trolls that just got trolled - EASILY!!!

Have fun dick riding each other the rest of the night, cause based off your comment history, that’s all you know how to do. Game… BLOUSES! Hahahaha

sandman3698's picture

Pigeon on a chess board.

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Massa Ron's picture

You’re a long way from worrying about weight loss being catabolic if you’re weight training at least 3x week. Recomp is challenging under 15% body fat but can be done at high bf. Cycle off the enclomiphene because of the blood clot and vision risks. HCG may be an option to cycle but at high body fat the E2 could get out of control. Keep up the good work and remember that your calorie deficit and your training are over 95% of what will get you to your goal. I’d also recommend that you supplement with TUDCA. Good luck.

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TeaBody's picture

I wa not aware of the blood clot and vision problems as a side.. good to know

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Turtleheadjoe's picture

Whatever you do make sure you’re eating enough. Take it from someone that’s been there, acidosis sucks out loud. The glps do too good of a job suppressing sometimes. Other than that all I can really offer is good luck and encouragement, the work is worth it

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jaysanx's picture

HCG 500 iu - 2x p/week (1000iu total)
HMG 75iu - 2-3x p/week
Proviron 25 mg - twice a day (50 mg total)

Vitamin D3 + K2
B-Complex
Magnesium bisglycinate

That and plenty of unprocessed foods, proper sleep/rest. I'd also work out 4 days a week, maximum 5 instead of 6. Your cortisol will be lower and you'll lose fat much faster and recover a lot better. Lift heavy, 8-12 rep range.

Good luck friend!

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JohnnyHardGuy's picture

Good advice sir

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Marloco's picture

Tren