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1st time on Dbol and getting crazy hear[t] palpations

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Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone else has had any crazy heart issues while using dbol. This is my first time I've used orals while on cycle . I've been running 500mg test cyp/week, deca 250mg/week and I started first 2 weeks at 20mg Ed then on 3rd week ran 40mg Ed, half way through the 4th week I started getting crazy heat beats, but my pulse and blood pressure weren't all that high, just felt like my heart was just beating super hard. I dropped dose back to 20mg Ed and it has subsided. It really sucked because I was loving the growth and pump during my workout. I'd greatly appreciate any feedback or tips that might help combat this issue. Thanks guys --

JakeKO's picture

I’ve recently come to the conclusion that any more than 10mg at a time is uncomfortable and ruins the whole experience for me. Cut back to 10 mg per day and I bet all the negative sides subside right away. I would also suggest running the test and deca at 250mg each per week. Honestly, it’s really all about how hard you train and how smart you eat. The gear will work well at the lower dosage. Then slowly start increasing your dosages, but leave the Dbol low, and don’t run it for more than four weeks at a time. Your cycle is an Estrogen bomb waiting to happen. I looked really good last june and threw in Dbol at 50mg per day, all at once. Some days I got even dumber and popped 50mg in the morning and 50mg in the evening. By my 4th of July party I looked like an unkept bloated buffoon. Dbol ruined everything. Took me months to get back to normal

press1's picture

I bet you got damn strong though on 100mg/day bud!!!

Crazy to think I've seen some PLers slamming 300mg/day eh Lol Lilliebridges use to ....

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Drexyl's picture

This should be taken as gospel.

Nattyboomba's picture

Yeah man, the only time I ran dbol, I was having a great cycle, up almost 20 pounds of decent weight, I added in 40mg of dbol and then BOOM - fuckin moon face. I woke up one day with puffy itchy nips & an enormous perfectly round face. I was using HGH simultaneously so my fingertips to the top of my head was like a water filled sausage.

ECinfidel's picture

1st time I Ran it I ran it at 40mg ed. and had a great time. No "moonface", no itchy nips, nice lean gains, and just had a blast. Probably due to the 6.25mg aro (ed) I dropped in on day 3.
Everyone mentions the E2 sides but never mentions an AI.

Ezli631's picture

I wish it would have been like that for me, how long did u run it at 40mg ed?

ECinfidel's picture

Ran it for 4 wks (5-8). It's often used as a Kickstart. But I can't justify Kickstarting something when the test esters aren't stacked. Hence why I waited 4 wks.

Ezli631's picture

Have you ran anadrol at all? If so, do like it as much as dbol? I was wanting to put together my next cycle with it in the mix.

ECinfidel's picture

Actually finished that very cycle w/adrol. Last 4 wks. Loved it as well. And I need to correct my previous statement regarding my AI during the dbol run. I just checked my notes. I bumped it up to 12.5 aro while the dbol was in play. 6.25 was my dose w/out. Apologies

Ezli631's picture

Nice!! What mgs were you running? 40mg ED like the dbol ? Thanks for the help bro

Ezli631's picture

Damn bro , it's funny too I was bummed out when I bought the dbol because I only had 100 10mg pills and I was told I needed to run 50mg a day so I was pissed because I didn't have enough lol I'm glad now I didn't start at 50mg who knows what may have happened to me lol thanks for the reply bro

JakeKO's picture

If I ever run it again, I won’t use more than 10mg per day. That’s how it was originally meant to be run. That’s why all Pharma versions are only 10mg. Or at least 10mg at a time

Diesel77's picture

Understandable, the high dosages truly is for the mass monster bodybuilders who over time increased up to that high dose. OG Ciba Dbols, first manufactured in the 1950s were 5mg/tab if I remember correctly. Like anything else, ya gotta give the body time to acclimate to the compound. Flood it all at once, straight shot from the get go is a bad choice and negative sides outweigh the positive for sure.

Ezli631's picture

Yea that sounds like the way to go if I run it again. Have you ever ran anadrol? , I hate to stop trying oral I really like the jump start they give. Thanks bro

JakeKO's picture

I’ve had some great runs with Anadrol, but in the since my Dbol mess, I’ve stuck with cutting gear. I’m almost to the point I want to be to run Anadrol again as I have a good brand on hand, but I’m just honestly scared to bulk again as I’ve come so far. I tried Superdrol for two weeks at the beginning of December and got Gyno symptoms right away and dropped it. Arimadex stopped it, but I got turned off immediately

Ezli631's picture

Right on , what brand of anadrol r u gonna run? And wat dose r u thinking of running it at? I really want to grab some but I'm still trying to figure out how to pay for it with crypto, my luck I'll fuck something up and be out my money lol

JakeKO's picture

I don’t think we are allowed to drop brand names, but at least four of the top ten sources sell it

Ezli631's picture

Sorry I'm still learning the rules on here, yea I'm going to grab a handful I think and give it a rip, thanks for the help bro #stayswole!

JEX30Sex's picture

Man that sounds scary brother. I can't help but think about all these young healthy athletes who just keel over from heart failure. I wouldn't f*** around with the d-bol if it's doing that. Not at any dosage. That's just my opinion. Hope everything turns out good for you.

steroidmen's picture

I want to advise you to take an analysis for magnesium and potassium! Without these things, I have an arrhythmia! I take a magnesium potassium + isotonic pack every day. Maybe you're sweating and you're losing a lot of fluid along with minerals that need to be replenished. Because of this, there may be a high hematocrit. And dbol maybe you're taking a high dosage. For example, I only take 5mg of dbol pre-workout and only twice a week and it gives good results. Of course, I also tried 20mg dbol, but then I felt terrible. And at a high dose of dbol, you need to increase the aromatase inhibitor.

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Ezli631's picture

I do sweat like a sob on dbol! I guess I was trying to follow a cycle I saw and was more concerned about my levels so I was taking it in small pieces through the day. This is why I joined eroids so I can get better info than just the guy at my gym. Greatly appreciate the help bro

ss007's picture

Ran the same cycle last year with the same side effects. Massive spike in bp and e2 was high. Caused alot of random heart palps to the point I could feel and hear my heart beat when I laid down. I would go check your blood work and take an AI (aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days ) because your e2 is definitely out of range with the all the gear that converts into estro. Im sure you put on alot of weight in a short period of time as well which puts alot of stress on your heart.

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Ezli631's picture

Yea that's exactly what I was feeling , I could literally hear it beating at random points through the night! So I should grab some aromasin the next time ? I was gonna try anadrol instead of dbol, forgive me but someone told me my body might not react as bad to it if I say around 25mg a day, any thoughts on that? Thanks again bro

ss007's picture

Have you gained alot of weight fast since starting your cycle with deca and dbol? Most of it has to do with the water retention caused by the elevated e2, which in turn raises your bp. your body is trying to process too much too fast. Test 500mg with deca and dbol is an estrogen bomb. Cut out orals for now and definitely lower your carbs and fats if you want to have a healthy and comfortable test/deca cycle. Add aromasin every 3 days . But just get your blood work first man, its not expensive. check your e2. take the AI accordingly, then in about 3 weeks get your blood work again to see where your e2 is then. I honestly don't see the reason to add dbol or anadrol with deca. Its just over kill. Around week 6 on deca you'll see the results come in. It shits on dbol.

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Ezli631's picture

Thanks bro I'll definitely do that, this is why I joined this site to get better info on all this shit, I've only been listening to one guy from the gym lol and he's my source too not good idea to get info from source I guess, thanks again

Ezli631's picture

A. Getting a full bloodwork and physical in 3weeks ,they do a ekg than. I'm anxious to see results. Thanks for the reply greatly appreciate it

press1's picture

Are you running an A.I on this cycle? It could be with it being your first oral and the massive increase in estrogen that it produces that your system is having a hard time dealing with all the different hormones present rather than just testosterone, you are then get heart palps as a side. A lot of people find Dianabol hard to tolerate in general because of big increases in BP and estrogen so you may find you are just one of those people. Steroids in general produce heart palpitations too.

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Ezli631's picture

Thanks for reply , I'm running .5mg twice a week of anastrozole and 40iu of gonadorelin twice a week as well. The basic trt protocol I guess. It's what I get from my trt doctor. I also was taking a milk thistle for liver health and didn't realize that I was possibly allergic to it was well. May be like u said just to many new substances being introduced to my system, likes are back to normal now.

Diesel77's picture

Your TRT doctor prescribed 500mg TestE and 250mg Deca a week?

Ezli631's picture

No I wish , only the norm from them 200mg week of test and 100mg week of deca .

Diesel77's picture

I was about to ask for his contact info if so..lol can't beat pharma quality compounds they provide, but wish they'd give us more for sure . Dbol is a fun compound and gives a euphoric feeling like no other, but the sides creep up and aren't so fun to deal with if you don't take the proactive approach. If the user is carrying a decent percentage of body fat, sides outweigh the use and becomes problematic causing blood pressure issues, acne, gyno and skews bloods. Plus the dbol "results" go away just as quickly as they came in, extremely short lived. I can totally understand why strength athletes love it, but it just isn't for me personally.

Ezli631's picture

Agreed!! I deal with online mens health clinic in Florida, they will sell u a 6mth supply at once but you can't reload until a month before , but they have all the types of test and deca, and will do 45 day of anavar but everything is pricey lol and their HGH forget about it unless u want to refinance your house lol

Diesel77's picture

I believe ya bro, I know a friend who operates one and it is BIG business for sure. ESPECIALLY with the HGH price per kit lmfao I'd personally much rather find a trusted source on here with quality products and get twice if not triple the amount of products. Easy to find source with true pharma grade compounds, but I don't knock anyone who opts for the clinic route under supervision, not at all. To each their own bro.

Ezli631's picture

I'm with you bro , their stuff is good but way more than I got lol. I'm trying a source here ,but trying to pay with crypto is all new territory for me lol its a scary new digital world out there, I'm old school analog type a guy lol

Ezli631's picture

Thanks bro that's definitely a must when I finish, I actually had a full physical in Nov right before I started cycle, I'll be curious to see if there is any differences. Thanks again