posted Tue, 11/14/2023 - 12:33
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HGH dosing
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Using HGH for the first time. I read a lot of conflicting information. Is it better first thing in the morning or in the evening? I am planning on 2iu daily. Should this be 7 days a week or 5 on 2 off? Thanks!
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Also been super curious about HGH. From what I understand the gains are slow but lasting. Anyone link me to a good informative article or two?
Here is another thought, what about pinning it pre-workout???
I thought about that as well because it makes sense to me. Only thing is I wasn’t sure if inconsistent timing would matter or not. I’m not always able to workout at the same time everyday
Even though 2IU is a low dose I wouldn't say it is worthless, depending on your natural levels and goals. More would be better obviously. Like said below, that dose could replace your natural IGF1 levels or it could give you a slight boost in levels which is possible especially if you're older, like another longtime member and I discussed. Gotta get your natural range in bloods to find out. And I agree, there's alot of conflicting information. I just think whatever routine works, then stick to it. And I think the 2off thing is more for monetary reasons more than natural GH recovery lol.
Anyways keep me posted. It all depends on your bloods man. That's the key. You can play around with pin routine to see which is best. A few preferences.
Bottom line is to just get it into you
First things first though, you need to get baseline level IGF tested. 2iu is basically a replacement dose so if you already have good normal levels 2iu is pretty much a waste of money. Kind of like using TRT just to replace the test levels you already have. If low, 2iu is fine, but to really reap anything out of HGH I wouldn't even consider anything below 3iu, 4-6iu is best for long term results. AT those doses, I would recommend splitting doses, and you take it ED, none of this 5 on 2 off bullshit.
Best times when splitting doses IMO is first thing in morning and pre-wo. Several reasons I find this optimal, especially if looking for fat loss results. Cortisol is high after fasting all night and spikes again late afternoon. HGH blunts cortisol and puts you back into an anabolic state. HGH also mobilizes free fatty acids and you will burn these up before consuming carbs in the morning and it will also mobilize them to be burned up during your workout (provides energy and better fat loss). The other thing with pre-workout is that you get a nice GH surge after pinning which peaks about 2-3 hrs afterwards. This peak will typically coincide with your post workout meal resulting in better nutrient partitioning/protein synthesis.
Most guys that are say from mid 30's to mid 40's are at 200ng/dL or lower.
Splitting helps me with the lethargy and stiffy hands too.
So what's your dose and routine? Any fat loss?
My work schedule unfortunately dictates a lot of my cycle/diet, based on free time throughout the day. With HgH, when I know I'll be active throughout the day continuously, I like to push a full 4-5 iu during the morning, usually around a quick workout. But if I'm less active, then I'll split it up a bit. Or sometimes save it all for the night, for some extra sleep. But when I do that, pretty much asking for stiff hands in the morning. But skin, hair, etc never looked better, now going 6 months now i think. My BF has always been low, not my overall issue, so I don't see it helping me there with that.
Ok makes sense. Thanks. I'm just looking at different routines from folks. 4IU seems to give good levels. I'll probably go a tad lower. No need for me to go all out lol
Yeah I usually don't go past 4 iu. Also, you might try IM vs SQ on the higher doses. Seems the lethargy isn't quite as bad when I do IM, but could be just in my head. But its consistent for me.......
Ok. Sounds like your doing what works for you. Thanks
To improve fat loss, take it immediately upon waking. Wait 30 minutes or so (don't eat). Perform 30-60 minutes of cardio. Then, break your fast.
To improve general recovery / anabolism, take it immediately before bed. Enjoy the deep sleep and humatrope dreams. ;-)
If side effects aren't bothering you (i.e. fluid retention, carpal tunnel-like pain, parasthesia in extremeties), take it every day. The 5 on 2 off protocol is a way for people to enjoy the benefits of GH without experiencing quite as many side effects. Also, if cost is a factor, 5 days on 2 days off may be a way for you to save ~28.5% of your hard earned dollars to be spent elsewhere.
Without knowing anything about your goals, individual physiology, or how you respond to the compound, my extremely general and unsolicited advice would be to start with the 2 iu before bed. If you are wanting to increase your intake, add your next 1 or 2 iu upon waking.
Great info here inline with my own research starting with my first HGH run now.
I’m pinning 2 IU when I get up first thing in the morning 5:30am. I then workout for 1 hour and eat before work.
I take my second dose 2 IU just before bed at least 3 hours after dinner.
The only side so far is I’ve picked up some water retention already which sucks.
I’ve been on a cutting cycle and really have leaned alot and look freaky veiny and ripped for a few weeks now. Today I just look swole from water totally different look. --
Hoping the water retention reduces as my body adjust to HGH.
My only concern about taking it before bed, is many nights I eat not too long before going to bed because of my child’s practices or other things. Is it not best on an empty stomach?
It is completely fine on an empty stomach.
HGH causes an increase in blood glucose post-injection, so you may actually find it better to inject at least an hour or two after your final meal for the day VS injecting it immediately after eating a big dinner.