Questions and help
Hello,
So i am 40 was injured hit the gym again went natty and now and going into a simple cycle but I’ve been trying to read on SARMS and peptides. I was curious do you know of any that help me maintain or keep more of the muscle i put in and keeping water away, .
My cycle is simple i am doing
Dbol kickstart 50mg X4 weeks
Test e 250 X 2 a week for 12 weeks
Either deca or EQ for 12 weeks
On week 8 start a anavar cycle 40-50 mg for a month
My PCT is HCG. And pharmacy clomid i would also run arimidex everyday for gyno.
I went to a website and was taken back by the products they have to offer i was curious if there is anything that will help me keep more gains.
I am 40 (turning 41) 6’3 230 at 16% bf. I eat clean but never used anything other than what I’ve said (well i used Tbol, tren, winny) but not SARMS or CEM. Can you recommend anything to help with the water and the keeping id gains. Any advice helps after my injuries i went natt and feel it’s time to get on the horse but to do it simple light but all this talk of this stuff makes me curious if any of it would help.
Any advice is recommend and appreciated
Best regards,
Drew
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Food with the right macros and the correct exercise regimen
RustyhookerNot a good cycle layout. Youre going kitchen sink here. Simple test only....
but never used anything other than what I’ve said (well i used Tbol, tren, winny) but not SARMS or CEM.
Might slow down and post priors too. Youre kinda all over the place
You don’t think a kickstart like Dbol iot Tbol with teatE and wither EQ OR DECCA is too much i was given anavar so i figured throw it towards the end buy don’t know yet. All of my cycles have a kickstart test e and wither Cyp,EQ or Decca DM me so i can tell you what I’ve storesd and maybe you can hwmo
RustyhookerComing off injury....off for a while...want simple.
Test...provi....hgh. boom! It doesnt need to been crazy huge. Youre adding a lot of bunk imo when it can be simple. I dont believe in peptides.
Test 500 split
Provi 50mg week 4 til pct
Hgh start at 2iu and work slowly to 4iu.
Its gonna be gym and food. Of course not reinjury as well.
Whats your pct?
My Pct is .5 arimidex everyday, HCG 5000 start lat week of cycle and clomid for a few weeks. I’ve wenr on RUI-labs ans it looks good, whata oct would you recommend
RustyhookerNot that for sure. Click my avatar...read my pct forum. Get pharma...not that place you mentioned
pct is NOT for trt guys
Why would you do PCT if you’re on TRT...I couldn’t read the whole thread so I could be missing something
Cause my balls will shrink and i still produce some test don’t want it all to go away
SARMS are a tricky thing. Quality varies by source, and results vary person to person. As Faz mentioned below; I'd look into MK677, but that's about it. Just my opinion.
If you have been off a good while, you would be surprised the gains you would make with just a simple test cycle.
That’s what I would recommend.
This question was not howTo do a cycle but rather white peptides or SERMS all that out there to help me keep the majority of my gains
You state at the bottom, any help counts.
What I stated in my first comment is the best help you should get.
Diet and training intensity will dictate how much of your gains you keep, not more drugs!
I don’t disagree but when you finish a cycle you loose a lot of what you gained no matter what and this young kid says no use this or that and i don’t trust him so i ask
Agreed diet is huge and when i finish my cycle i go harder and eat cleaner but let’s say you gained 30lbs now 15 is water the other 15 you be lucky to keep 5lbs now there has to be a better way and this young kid who i think just talks shit is telling me about SARMS and other things i don’t know if so i ask
Ok.
Well I wouldn’t advise most Sarms during pct because they are suppressive.
It is also hard to find decent quality sarms.
Read all the posts in this group below
https://www.eroids.com/og/sarms-the-new-anabolic-with-less-androgenic-ef...
Read into MK677, it’s a growth hormone secretagogue.
Peptide wise, look into ghrp2 or ghrp 6 (increases appetite massively)
Use with either cjc with or without dac.
They mimic naturally gh pulses.
I still stand by my first comment though.
Thank you this is something that i was looking for ans much appreciated
At that point, you might as well buy rHGH, the cost of CJC Dac at 2mg/wk plus MK677 25mg/day is more expensive than running 3iu a day of generic.
I completely agree!!!
he’s asked about sarms and peptides so I wasn’t going to mention HGH.
Like I said in my first comment a simple test cycle would be more than enough in his situation.
But he’s a grown man intent on doing it so thought I’d point him in the right direction
I am not intent on anything i just want more info on what they do from SARMS to peptides to everything else i never heard of. I keep it simple but after helping an kid with money issues he feels like he can school me but i don’t trust his logic so i ask a simple question maybe i should of simplified it but when i was told he keeps 80% of the muscle he gains off his cycle it made me interested. Don’t assume anything ask me, i never said i am going to do this i said i want more info. One kid said i was drunk but I’ve been up all night making sure my pops don’t choke on his vomit and to say i need a new job i can leave my dad to an aid and make easy 100K to start but I’f you don’t have kids and you won’t sacrifice for your fanily in my eyes you aew worthless (unless he beat you every day) money comes and goes our family maynot be here for ever. I have giv insurance and when i have these questions i gobto my regular doc who charges 180 a visit he is the one who said take another cycle you have to do TRT FOR life anyway. Google Macroadenoma and then talk to me. I’m not asking for sympathy lolebpoor baby lost his woman sold his house and takes care of his dad cause that’s what men do, i wash cleqn, while and feed this man and i would not have it anyother way my queens was on thee SARMS peptides and all the one that’s CRM or something but it became l te bash on the dude who was a ruff almost 3 years. I pray the day you don’t need someone to clean you ans some nasty West Indian does it and makes you feel like a dick. My father d serves better and i will provide him and if you call him out again i won’t find you or get physical I’ll pray to orisha. Don’t ever laugh at a cripple or old person that can be you or someone you love. Money does not talk or hold you. I’m delerimg this thread cause i just wanted some answers and i got a few but others are quick to judge saying he made up his mind etc
Dude, you can find a lot of useful information if you're looking, there's a magnifying glass at the top.
I recommend this reading
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-succe...
Simple???
Yes that’s the cycle I’ve always done with the w
Exception of anavar and I’m on the fence about it but when i went to order some pins they had all this stuff and i read some help you keep your gains help with PCT and to that I’m new and any help is appreciated even if you tell me to take a long walk on a short pier
Keep it very simple.
Do blood work,....,.,, so you have a base number.
250mg Test E or Cyp x2 a week.
For 12 weeks.
PCT starts 2 weeks after your last shot.
F/R denied.
I just spent half hour writing younbqvk and it didn’t save. I’ll keep it short i got injured after a while Sox’s told me i have macroadenoma a pituitary tumor not cancer one effect is it shuts down Test productionZ then dad got sick so i went from making 6 figures to 25 grand sold my house niigjtboke so my whole family can live together. I was a AML compliance officer for one e of the top 3 places in the city world. My fiancée left me cause she did not want to live in a studio I’m turning 41 can catch launder money my question was nornon my cycle but have you herd od any peptides or SARMS that manyain yourbgeoru Kel you here isblikento be KMC friend i think recent tqch is qvj wour business he hjh eee e ebbed i asked him but after 9 tees as a ranger infnrrey he sees the world we ugly ans sark i feel on positive and goal changes the worldZ so ame KMC I’ve done a bunch of cycles i www curious oknwjwybpwptidr or else help you mamaintain abs keep aize. After my diagnosis with macroadenoma my score was like 37 i should shoot 2x a week i donor once cause i don’t have insurance and am blowing through my savingsz\ you have qny mon y queens ask me i ew top 3 in my country
Wtf did I just read? Are you drunk or did you have a stroke?
SARMs aren’t going to save your muscle if your natural production of Test is tanked. I found this out from experience with my naturally low test. I plateaued at 185 and could gain a few more lbs with Ostarine, but was pretty stuck. When I got on TRT I jumped to 205 in about 2-3 months, without changing my workouts.
You need to focus on getting your life back together. Get a good job, get HEALTH INSURANCE, get a doctor, and get your medical issues treated. Your life tanked and no amount of gear or SARMs is going to fix that. First, YOU have to fix YOU and then get control of your life back
First i find what you said offensive i had a great job Have a masters in economics and was in AML for a decade . Got into bad accident and routine tests showed my brain tumor than my dad got sick so i sold my house bough another and moved my whole family in. I will be on TRT for life. When i was skiing a shot a week i went from 37 to 352
My question was more of what ate these SARMS and peptides these young kids inbthe gym talk about abs i just happened to give one real good advice he thinks he’s my friend and tells me he keeps 80% of his gains. Yes i am tired and yes i just wrote but don’t think for a second i am a degenerate who asks for free stuff or wants things on the arm. I asked what SARMS peptides were because never heard of them with the hopes that someone could guide me the right way and tell me this is good this is bad this is for that etc. etc. I’m 40 own a nice 3 family house in NYC but after my Father got sick my fiancée left me she wasn’t used to being in a confined space in the studio so I can’t really ask for help and you called me restarted. I’m notngonna boat but I’ll put my past 10 year taxes next to you and see who needs a better job and if you would leave your father to be taken care of by strangers over money your priorities are not right unless you have kids.
“ younbqvk, Sox’s, niigjtboke, nornon, herd od, manyain, yourbgeoru Kel, isblikento, tqch is qvj wour business he hjh eee e ebbed i asked him but after 9 tees as a ranger infnrrey he sees the world we ugly ans sark i feel on positive and goal changes the worldZ so ame, www curious oknwjwybpwptidr or else help you mamaintain abs keep aize. donor once cause, qny mon y queens ask me i ew top 3 in my country”
This is why I asked if you were drunk, the amount of typos is insane, how can we help if we don’t even know what you’re saying. Also, if you don’t want your life critiqued, don’t put it out there. You could have left it as simple as “what can I do to keep my gains after a cycle” but you brought your life circumstances into it. If they weren’t effecting your quality of life and your gains you wouldn’t have brought it up, therefore the obvious answer is to fix what’s going wrong. If you were on dr prescribed TRT you wouldn’t be worried about trying to use SARMs to keep gains while having low T.
And finally, whatever dude, trying to help you. I didn’t come to eroids to measure dicks and brag about “omg I’m so rich”
Bro i run on 5 hours of sleep a day have one bad eye and i am prescribed bottle of Cyp a month but no insurance it cost $150... as for rich I’m broke, i did this for my family. Read on what i have i don’t produce test but i recovered went back to gym and am ready for my usual cycle abs like i said i know my stuff to a point but when someone says you can keep 70% of your gains it peeks my interest and one shot of 200 mg Cyp every 7-10 days does not make you big given i use it just to have test in my system. When you said look for another job one with insurance to someone you don’t know it’s insulting. I wrote what i wrote in a daze like I’m now i don’t sleep i take naps throughout the day. All i want is more info on what the kid told me is true. Being on TRT when you don’t produce test won’t get you big trust me i work out with a shot every 7-9 days it helps with emotions. I asked my doc no i told him I’m doing a cycle all he said was come let me look at hour bloods and have pct ready.. i never brag if you read what i wrote i live in a studio when i owned a house left my job to be a full time caregiver shit i lost it all and i just want to know if what this kid says
is true.. I’m gonna delete this and write it in a clear state of mind lack of sleep is like being drunk i never asked for sympathy just an answer is it true ehwtbhe is tellimg me/ but don’t judge someone cause one day you may be in my shoes and i hope your not and someone says go back to school get a job. I’m gonna rewrite this ans mayne then I’ll get more answered i judge a man by actions not what he has and i asked for help
“I never brag”
“I’m 40 and own a 3 bedroom house in NYC” and “I’ll put my past 10 year taxes next to you and see who needs a better job“
Also, cyp doesn’t cost $150 a month. I had to pick up a script early before my insurance would cover it again and it cost $33 for a month supply with no insurance. And as someone who doesn’t much produce test naturally either, 100% you can get big on TRT. That’s all diet and exercise.
I never said go back to school, I said get a better job that has insurance. Try to find one where you can telecommute and work from home. Then you can afford to give your parents better care and you can provide better care for yourself too. Also if you’re broke, maybe you shouldn’t be spending hundreds of dollars on a cycle of steroids.
No SARMs will be the magic bullet for keeping gains, if it was everyone would be doing it.
Yes cyp from the pharmacy does cost that much per month for 200 mg per week with out insurance at CVS. I have insurance so I still buy it however it is cheeper to purchase from a reliable UGL which is what I would do if I didn’t have insurance. When my company switched insurers they initially wouldn’t cover it so I asked how much it would be and they said $160
Weird, no idea how pharmacies decide on prices because Publix, Walmart and Walgreens are all $30 for me. Never used CVS.
The cheapest i found a bottle of Cyp by Watson is 130 and that’s from a mom and pop pharmacy. It can’t be that different from NYC from let’s say North Carolina
Look you said i need a good job and better health insurance and where i live a bottle of Cyp is $150 call any CVS in Manhattan and ask them. I’m not broke o live off the rental unit and I’m 40 after having this tumor that shit down my test production (not all the way buy enough where i need TRT) when you said get a better job i took that as an insult cause i was on top of my game and i had to leave to do ehat i feel is right. Yes i can let some stranger dobthis but I’m scared something may happen. My diet is clean but one shot every 10 days i can’t see me getting big especially after i just healed a while back from an accident. Look this is a community we are here to help each other i just am running on fumes and sometimes i May read things the wrong way. And i don’t brag is give this all up just so my pops could take care of himself. I’m single now cause the person i was with cant be with someone who takes care of someone else. I don’t know dick about SARMS or peptides i do my cycle my pct and that’s it it’s all these young kids who are telling me do this and that but i decides to ask the forum. Look i apologize if you took something wrong i know i May of misread what you wrote. But in ehat i specialize i travel a lot and work from home is not an option
$150 a vial for cyp is a joke.
Use www.goodrx.com, my local pharmacy fills my script for less than $35 for a 10ml (200mg/ml) vial.
Again www.goodrx.com
I don’t have insurance so i pay full price maybe thr copay is like $35 but i swear on everything call any NYC pharmacy the price won’t drop under $120 i go to my local where i pay a little more but he also throws in the pins that also require a script. I get 20 pins so figure he adds 20 to the price the bottle should be 130 but $35 bucks is no way in this city... shit a pill of Viagra is $50 per pill
I have NO insurance.
Check out www.goodrx.com
Or not, ...... your loss.
It’s all good man, you’re going through a lot. And I apologize too, I probably came on too strong and should have been more empathetic. I can’t imagine how hard it must be for that all to happen at the same time. Any one of those changes by themselves is a major life event. Some of the more experienced guys have said that your cycle could use some fine tuning, posting it in the cycle section might get you some good advice on it. As far as the pharmacy goes, I suppose everything is more expensive in New York! You could look into finding a local compounding pharmacy that could make it for cheaper. If not then UGL Test is certainly cheaper.
For your TRT you might get better results from doing 100mg injections twice a week instead of one 200mg injection, as other have stated.
Also, there’s some good info in the TRT board about using HCG on TRT that would help.
Hope things get better man
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