posted Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:24
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PEPTIDE TIMING
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Trying to make a peptide bridge schedule for future "off time" between cycles. I was wondering about timing the dose of GHRP6 post workout. Can I take my GHRP 6 after my workout, before my cardio? Then slam shake after? Cardio will only be 20 minutes of moderate intensity stepmill. Or should I wait until after cardio, pin the GHRP 6 and wait ANOTHER 20-30 minutes before I drink my shake.
Anyone who answers, can you please source where you are getting your information from? Id rather have an educated answer with experience on this topic rather than an opinion. Anyone who is knowledgeable on this subject that could help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks bros, peace.
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Hey bro I ran Ghrp 6 for a year. Are you running cjc1295 or cjc1293 with it? It's important to run them together. I would advise you run 1293 or a 1295 WITH OUT DAC. The version of 1295 with dac causes pituitary bleed of growth hormone which is believed to be connected with some nasty sides down the road. These two can each be injected 3 times a day at 100mcg each. It's important to split the dosages up because the saturation level of these peptides is believed to be pretty low 100-200mcg. This means that if you exceed the saturation level in a single dose your body isn't really utilizing the peptide to its full potential. Now timing of injections is also important. You need to hit these injections when your natural growth hormone is highest. Now growth hormone levels are raised post work out so it is a great time to inject post workout. Also do not eat any fats or carbs post injection for about 30 minutes as they will blunt the release of your gh. Now next injection should be right before you sleep as growth hormone rises while you rest. Your last injection can be when you wake up in the am or I know some guys wake up in the middle of the night when their gh is flowing and inject then. If you do these things you will see results but you need to run these peptides for an extended time I would suggest at least a year straight. The results come slow at first but when they start to kick in its worth it.
I agree with everything except the eating part. It's been proven that eating has NO effect on the peptide's effectiveness.
Really well all of the research I have done, which is a lot, tells me differently so can you show me a source
Show me research.
smallguyThis all sounds very accurate from what I've gathered. What Im confused about is "JUICE 2" is recommending I take mod grf instead of the cjc w/o dac. What Im trying to figure out is what stack would be more effective? Which stack produces more levels of GH in your blood plasma?
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southernmuscle615well first off you'll get alot better results by also adding a GHRH with your GHRP..but thats your preference..and also it kindve depends on what your trying to accomplish..are you cutting or trying to put on size? you can take peptides up to 6 times a day in 3 hr intervals..thats a little much and plus you have to worry about desensitization..3x a day is plenty..1st dose right when you wake up..no food for an hr. after administration, then you can eat some kind of protein 2nd dose post workout(same thing) and right before bed (make sure you've had no carbs atleast an hour before pinning) but for the most part, their best to take on an empty stomach and then wait an hour afterwards to eat
smallguyI am trying to recovery from a hernia surgery. This would be used to help heal and strengthen tissue around the incision site a lot faster than a recovery without it. My protocol was going to be ghrp 6 and cjc 1295 w/o dac. 200mcg of ghrp 6 and 100mcg of cjc.. Im spun up on the timing of when and when not to eat around injection times.
Until you get used to it, you're going to have a hard time controlling hunger on even 200mcg ghrp6
AnonGHRP-6 played havvoc with my appetite, I didnt know why I was always wanting to eat. I dont take the ghrp6 any more, I dont need an increased appetite. Im going to try imporelin instead
Ghrp6 is a beast. I put down 500g carbs in 25 mins on 500mcg.
smallguyWhat I was saying... I want the hunger side effect. Im currently healing from a hernia surgery and trying to maintain as much of the mass I have and also trying to speed up the healing process. I originally started this forum to find out the correct stack and dosing times, but the more I've researched, I've found its healing properties to be far more interesting. Therefore, I feel that starting it now even though I'm not lifting would benefit me in the aspect of healing faster. Thoughts?
Agree, especially if you're looking for the appetite increase. Do you have access to dat forum? Add and pm me. I agree, I would start now as opposed to later. The reason I'm wondering if you have access is you can see the latest postings are all recommending mod grf and a ghrp.
smallguyI just recently got on that forum you recommended. I just dont know where to start lol. Its a lot of info to take in. Im not even sure how to add you man lol. My sn on there is smallguy. So if you can, add me or PM me. New to the forums bro
And I see the threads that mod grf seems to be more effective.. Why does everyone recommend the usual ghrp6 and cjc stack?
Adding you right now. Yea, we have years of reading to do lol. That's why I laugh when I see the igf 1 posts now. This guy is seriously way beyond anything I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot. After you see this click on your name in the right top corner.
smallguyThanks for the info.
Why? For increase in appetite? Give me your reasoning behind it and I'll tell you why it sucks if it's not just for appetite increase.
smallguyI was wanting ghrp 6 over ghrp 2 because of the appetite increase. Im familiar with the "sides" of ghrp 6, which I dont really mind. Like the release of ghrelin. I want that. But why not cjc w/o dac? Why mod grf over cjc? Im reading in datbtrues forum, and he puts cjc in the same category with mod grf in the fact that they are both VERY EFFECTIVE ghrh with half lifes over 30 minutes.
smallguyWell, for one, it stimulates the body's own secretion of hGH. That being said, Human Growth hormone has been shown in studies to promote lean body mass and reduce adipose. So if Im able to release more of it, then in theory I am promoting more lean body mass. Also, GHRP 6 has a protective effect on the liver and an anti-inflammatory effect. Appetite increase is just a good side effect of the peptide. Is that a good enough reason?
If you've read more recently some of dats studies, to increase secretion of natural gh maximally pulse ghrp2 and mod grf 3x a day on an empty stomach.
smallguy"For use in vivo, in humans, the GHRH analog known as CJC w/o the DAC or tetra (4) substituted GRF(1-29) or modified GRF(1-29) is a very effective peptide with a half-life probably 30+ minutes." - datbtrue
Im lost now. He is saying cjc is a very effective peptide and your saying to use mod grf.
He also has a graph posted with mod grf/ghrp2 of serum results at ~30 with bloods drawn appx 30mins. I don't negate the effects of cjc (only w/o dac) I feel for the money the ghrp2 mod combo is the way to go. Have a national competitor on it who's run generic gh at different doses and feels absolutely great and full all the time with this. I like to stick to what works personally. We're going to experiment more with cjc and other peptides from Tom in the offseason after he turns pro.
smallguyWhat I'm trying to find out is:
Are gh levels in blood plasma higher when ghrp2 and mod grf are taken as opposed to ghrp6 and cjc?
And if so, are results in blood plasma that much more conclusive?
smallguyOk so 3 times a day. Before breakfast, sometime pre/post workout, and before last meal. Right? Whick brings me to my same question. Can I take this stuff after I workout, before my cardio? Then slam the shake after cardio? Or will I get low blood sugar and start to feel "insulin" like effects if I dont eat within 15-20 minutes? What dosing? And how come ghrp 6 and cjc1295 is so popular now for the muscle building stacking?
You won't get that hypo feeling on 100mcg. 500, yes. I prefer the before workout but you can do after workout. Then have an intra workout shake
smallguywhat would an intra workout shake consist of? the only intra workout drink I drink is BCAA's. Im not sure I could down a bunch of carbs and protein while im lifting
Mine is bcaa and Karbolyn and creatine. If you can't afford the Karbolyn Gatorade powder works just fine too. You don't need the protein till after the bcaas take its place.
smallguyMy pre workout shake is 25g karbolyn and 25g whey.. post workout is 75g karbolyn, 25g whey. when would i pin? gh just sounds like a better option.
smallguylol.. nobody?