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+ 22 Melanotan II... ... ... The real deal

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ok so I rarely ever post forum topics as I'm quite sure many guys do on various matters and do not have any clue what they are talking about. I have seen such topics posted about the discussion of MT-II. These are my true and accurate experiences of said peptide in order to assist those with questions on this compound. I hope this helps clear the air for many questions and will most certainly raise some questions which just cant be answered accurately.

What is MT-!!? one of the best descriptions I have seen for it is actually on wikepedia. In short it is a peptide developed by researchers at the Univ of Arizona in efforts to reduce the risk or possibly even eliminate the risk of skin cancer for users.

Why do people on this sight use it? most people on this sight do it for appearance purposes. many desire a dark tan in order to bring out muscle definition and vascularity, this drug will do that, please note many others use this peptide for medical purposes such as those with photosensitivity disorders.

You can read more about MT-2 on other various forums designated just to talk about this peptide, Such forums are a wealth of knowledge and filled with information or peoples experiences.

I've seen a lot of confusion of how to reconstitute this peptide. also dosing conversions. some are far more complicated then they have to be. Although many methods can be used let me outline a basic one for dosing and reconstitution. please note I am not advocating this is a one size fits all. you will see I personally want people to air on the side of caution.

mix 2cc's (2mls) of bacteriostatic water in each vial of MT-2. Each vial has 10mg of the peptide powder itself. When the water hits the MT-2 it will dissolve into a clear liquid. keep all unused MT-2 vials in the freezer and pull out let thaw for 10 min and add water when ready for use, many people also preload their needles and freeze those. this is a ok idea, but remember this compound degrades within about a month in the fridge so if you wont use it up by then you have to keep it frozen. it must stay very cold, but thaws very quickly. do not keep room temperature.

the pins you will need are 1cc (1ml) insulin needles standard 5/8 in and 30 gauge. most drug stores and online supply have these very cheap.

your injection can be IM but most people do SubQ. pinch your belly fat around your naval and inject the needle into your fat. it should sting very little or not at all. some people experience redness and or itching in the injection area but this should go away within a few hours

now dosing.... less is better with this peptide...let me repeat less is better! your insulin pin goes to 100... most people if you add 2ml of bacteriostatic water to the peptide (as i advised above) will not need to go past the 10 mark. its a very small amount of liquid but remember this is a very strong peptide. most start out at the 5 mark I started at the 2 mark... never go past the 20 mark. You will be wasting your money and risking your health!! I will expound in a moment on that.

this is not a one size fits all. start with the 2-5 mark stay there for a week maybe 2 weeks hell even 3 what's the rush? then move up slowly to the 10 mark. not all at once but gradually. this is a long and slow acting peptide less and longer is better. the 5 mark is 250mcg the 10 mark is 500mcg the 15 mark is 750mcg the 20 mark is 1mg. after 20 stop you do not need to go higher. again most should stay at 10 or 500mcg..

the side effects you experience can be different for everyone, nausea, face flushing, headache, constant erections, increased heart rate, loss of appetite, tiredness, moles, skin discoloration, dizziness, general bad feeling all day etc etc... Most (not all) are a result from a spike in Blood pressure. If you dose to high (I did) your blood pressure will spike. mine went to 190/120! that was just using the 12 mark after not injecting for a few days. I had to go to the ER... You can stroke out and die with BP that high. And anyone who disagrees with that is lying to you and themselves, go easy and feel it out. many inject at night, I do as well, before bed. this will not reduce the sides but simply having to experience them while you are awake.

Will it make you tan? without a doubt if it is real it will make you tan. you do of course need UV exposure. Everyone has a different genetic disposition to the sun and we all have different skin types usually broken down to four skin types. Type 1 being a Ginger with red hair who never tans and Type 4 being a person who tans extremely easy. most white people fall into a Type 2. I am more a type 1. I never tanned and have very light blonde hair. I am now golden brown for the first time in my life. Even the person with the most fair skin and pasty white complexion can get tan, but remember it will take way longer for a Type1 then a Type 2 or 3 person. it will be a slower process and require a buildup of UV rays.

Also remember all peptide companies put out different qualities of MT-2. if you switch companies do not dose what you were dosing with the prior source, rather assume the new source is a stronger peptide and back it down by at least half. It may not be stronger but better safe then sorry

You can burn with MT2. the build up takes longer for others and is shorter for some, I did burn on this stuff, go very slow with UV exposure as well and see how your body responds. I recommend waiting a month before you even attempt to get UV exposure. then start slow in the sun or a short time in the tanning bed, someone who tans easier could probably do more time off the bat then I could.

Do you have to go tanning? yes your tan wont magically appear. I have both tanned and went outside. a mix of the two is ideal. you don't need the most expensive tanning package but adding variety to your tanning is helpful. certain beds and booths offer different UV bulbs and I found variety is best but direct sunlight is really good too. Some choose to use lotion some do not. its really a personal choice, I like a nice lotion with some good tingle or bronzers in it.

How long do you run MT-2? again not a one size fits all. some run it for years and some just for summer months. it really depends on your personal goals and tolerance. it is a fairly cheap peptide so for most money is not a determining factor. I have been running it daily for three months and am golden brown. I get compliments all the time on my tan and that has never happened to me in my life..

you can get too dark off this stuff. my boy is a type 3 and he got dark real quick. he went from white to Spanish in a matter of weeks and it doesn't look natural. I inject far more often and get uv exposure far more often then he but again its not a one size fits all.

This peptide is not FDA approved and is on the banned list. if you need medical treatment for adverse side effects 99.9% of physicians will have never heard of MT-2 including your local poison control Department.

I hope this helps many. again this is not a one size fits all, but I have outlined some important things to remember,

  1. start slow
  2. less is better
  3. we all react different to MT-2 because of genetic disposition, skin type etc etc
  4. this is not a one size fits all... side effects and results will vary
  5. Not FDA Approved
  6. UV exposure is necessary to get tan
  7. there is very little published info about this peptide
  8. there are Melanotan forums out there which are a wealth of knowledge
inzer777's picture

as I said above many factors determine how long it takes for you to see results genetic disposition, skin type, quality of MT2, amount of UV exposure and what kind of UV exposure...I personally wouldn't recommend tanning until you been dosing 3 weeks to a month, but as I stated above I air on the side of caution. this peptide is a slow buildup in the body if dosed correctly

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LeroyCash's picture

I already have good color. Just mainly wanted my lower body to catch up.
Thanks I'll just do as b4. Take shirt off when outside doing yard work and such.

inzer777's picture

the best way to get a even full body tan is to use a tanning salon. after about a month I would think about it. try to get a package that offers you use of different beds and booths. mt2 works great with exposure to both uva and uvb bulbs. lotion imo is not optional but expensive lotion is. lotion will help maximize your tan faster. if you pm me I can privde you with the names of some great lotions. buy lotion online not in the salon they are double marked up and the people there try to sell you what they make money off of.

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LeroyCash's picture

Fr sent

inzer777's picture

ok brother how long have you been on it and how much are you dosing?

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inzer777's picture

ok here's what I want you to try. try ed pins.in my experience sides will go away with a consistent buildup in the body of mt2. I want you to do 3 on the slin pin for three days ed. then bump it to 4 on the slin pin for three days. then 5 and keep it there ed for a month. im willing to bet your sides will go away after you been on the 5 for a few days. remember ed pins before bed. once your sides go away you will be tempted to bump up...do not. you are sensitive to mt2 5 will be a more then sufficient dose for you

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inzer777's picture

I would take your two new vials and reconstitute with 2 ml of bac water each. make sure you have enough slin pins on hand before you do this of course. then fill 3 pins up to the 3 mark. fill 3 pins up to the 4 mark and the rest up to the 5 mark, put them all in a clean Tupperware and put them in the freezer. before you pin each night pull the required pin out of the freezer and let it thaw it thaws quick less then five minutes usually. this way here you preserve the potency of your mt2, and also you have preloaded and reduced temptation/error to pin more.

moles are different for everyone... I will tell you this way I outlined should reduce the moles but not eliminate them

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inzer777's picture

Hey guys. in the spirit of supplying you all with as much accurate info as possible about MT2 I would like to let you know I have been splitting my daily dose to morning and eve and it seems to be giving me less sides but most importantly I do seem to be getting even darker. just try 3 on the slin pin in the morn and 3 in the eve for those of you at the maintenance stage and see what you think

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Pale's picture

Everyone that see's me asks how I got so dark, lol. I boating.

gambit's picture

I am fairly new to this stuff too. I started about 10-14 days ago at 100mcg for 3 days, then 150mcg, 200 mcg and now been on 250mcg for 2 days. i spend a lot of time in the sun on the weekends so i noticed i am already starting to get dark so will keep the 250mcg through this week but then run it 250 EOD and see how it goes.

i had a decent base before i started but it was like my skin didnt want to get any darker. my legs never wanted to darken! now they have been starting to darken over the past few days and other parts are catching up.

i noticed my face is getting darker then rest of my body. i am using a spf15 on body and 30 on face but will pick up some 50 for face and leave 15 on body for now but will reapply it more often. i sometimes forget. i may even use a 15 on upper and an 8 on lower this weekend to help legs catch up.

my sides are random boners but nothing else. i am getting some more freckles but i never had a lot to begin with.

i seem to keep a reddish brown tan for a few days after a lot of sun but then its browning out nicely.

inzer777's picture

thanks brother. great question ive wondered this myself as most forums advise to mix with 2ml of water. I suppose 2ml works best because 3mls may not fit in all vials (most vials ive seen look smaller than 5ml vials to me) some guys mix with 1ml the problem with that is you would have to cut all your dosing in half. so what if I want to start at 2 units on my insulin pin, then I would just draw up 1 unit? i'm afraid that wouldn't even be enough to draw. also with 1ml you get into halves which the insulin pin does not have marked. for example most maintenance dose at 5units which remember is 250mcg. then mixing with 1ml of water ive have to drop to 2.5 units in the pin. that wouldn't be as exact because I would have to eyeball the halfway point between two very small marks on a very small pin anyway. this of course was my best guess at a viable reason

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FinMan's picture

Inzer... This is a fantastic post about this substance.
I REALLY think you are ON POINT with the statement that if you get one brand and switch to another .... Use less. I got a brand that was WAY overdosed.... And my BP spiked seriously. It too was a med emergency. Now I dont wanna scare anyone away from this stuff... I actually kept at it and finally realized that 3mls in the stuff I got was the sweet spot. So that's how mine is reconstituted. Got more for free I look at it like..... And I am TAN!! Really very nicely tan. I look almost Spanish I'd say but not artificially at all. I get complimented ALL the time on the tan it developed in me.
As to the part about burning.... I burnt my ass ... Literally. I mean LITERALLY!! I had been laying out with shorts and developed a nice tan very quickly... And I then decided to hit a tanning bed to tan parts I can't tan at the local pool. Well... I was pretty much white there and 30 minutes in a tanning bed and my ass has been burnt for days! I thought I could just jump right in but that part of my body was not accustomed and I burnt.
Not much else to say about this stuff. I got the sides you speak of. No sexual sides at all though...
I'm happy with the tan I have and I'm probably gonna go darker next time I can lay out for a little while.
I did get some moles on my head to show up ... Forgot I even had them. But not big and not a deal breaker. My nose though is starting to get discoloration or darkening on the nostril tips but only I can notice that close up in the mirror.
Anyway, plus one for this write up. Wish it was posted a couple months ago.
Good job!

inzer777's picture

thanks brother. been wanting to write this for a while. I burnt my ass and groin too. someone told me its impossible to burn on this peptide , not true!!! also you reminded me of my lips. I have moles which aren't bothersome to me but my lips. my wife tells me I have Obama lips. they got dark and discolored. looks like I smoke a lot of weed lol

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raiden25's picture

Great info bro, I wanted to ask I have bin getting dark dots or moles do they go away once you stop using this stuff, I have bin getting quite a few on my face, thanks.

smiley13's picture

I got the same dark spots on my back and i can say now that i have discontinued the MTII and returned to my fair skinned self that the spots went away with my tan.

Walkertexasranger's picture

I have very fair skin that usually burns then tans a bit. Heritage is mostly welsh, which accounts for the initial burn, and Italian, which probably accounts for the slight tanning after sun exposure. I have taken both MT and MTII. The dark spots appeared once I finished the loading dose and really freaked me out. Basically all the moles and freckles on my face and body I had got darker and more noticeable. I considered discontinuing like it sounds most people did, but ended up riding it out. After about a week and everything pretty much evened out.

Side note: My wife and I went to Hawaii that summer and my color was right where I liked it before we left. I hadn’t been spending much time in the sun before the trip, but during the trip I got WAY too dark for my liking and discontinued. I look back at photos from that time and my skin was almost purple looking. This is one time I really stand behind the everything in moderation saying.

Pale's picture

I had this happen as well, I stopped taking it ED after they started and now will just pin once.

inzer777's picture

the answer is both yes and no. some do go away but I say with regret others may not.

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