posted Wed, 07/24/2013 - 07:42
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I received my blood work back yesterday and here are the results...
53
5'9"
195lb
20% bf
Test, free (direct) 2.45L range 4.25 - 30.37 pg/ml
Test bioavailable (calc) 5.74L range 10.10 - 71.20 ng/dl
My Dr.suggests TRT at 100mg every two weeks and to take more blood in 3 months.. I know with Cyp or Enth the half life makes weekly injections the more stable option. I would like to end up at the high side of normal. My question, would 50mg of test a week be enough to raise my test levels to the desired range? Would I be better off to run 100mg per week ?
Thanks for any input.
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AnonTestE has a halflife of 5days
TestCyp has a halflife of 10days i would say go TestCyp
A regular healthy male produces around 49mg of T a week.
If you just want TRT results go with what ur Dr. Says if u want Eroids results you go ..... Well u get the idea
Also with 100mg Every other week Ai are not needed
I belive above 300 or 400mg a week u need Ai.
Ai are Aromatase inhibitors which help prevent hyper intreaction between ur testosterone and that enzyme from making E2 and getting Gyno.
Hope this helps bro
The doc. perscibed me 200mg test c every two weeks. Thank god for sights like this. I found 50 to 75mg every 4 days keeps me from creaking like an old ship and a little dbal. when my shoulder joint pain gets too much. A little goes a long way. Im cautious of over use and liver damage but i know its a fuckload better then a hand full of tylenol.
Hi there old fart, I'm 51 and been doing trt since 2009. i would Highly recommend you try 100 mg of either test e or c, there are almost the same, per week to FEEL an effect.
Thanks for chiming in here old timer.
Yes, been running your suggestion and feel much better.
I'm 64 and run test e200mg per week. That is my scrip from the Dr. I feel good. Been on this amount for 2 years and never needed an ai.
5'8"
152 lbs.
I have been running 100 mg per week, for the past 12 weeks, and just had my bloods pulled. My total test has gone up a bit (541 ng/dl) but my free test is still below normal. I am thinking about bumping my test to your levels to see how my body responds.
If you can't get your free test up investigate aromasin. It increases free by blocking SHBG. Also you should have your estradiol tested, if it's too high that is probably what's taking your free test. Andyou're right, yourtotal should be higher than 541, at least up around 700.
Guess it depends on you. I am 100% for weekly injections. You could try 50mg/week but I'm thinking 100mg might be a more reasonable number.
I have been running 100mg of cyp weekly for 3 months now and feel awesome.
i have to agree with crayon ,wether on cycle or cruising (trt) twice a week is best to avoid the roller coaster -better to be stable and put less stress on your system
This morning I am heading to the Dr.'s office to have blood drawn to run a lipid and hormone panel. It has been 10 weeks since the start of my trt, 100mg test-c per week, and I am anxious to see the results.
Stats have changed a bit...year older 54, 191lbs, bf @ 16%.
My mood, strength, and libido have all improved greatly.
My goal is to keep dropping the bf and then run a primo/test cycle around the first of next year.
Can't say anything that hasn't been said already... weekly injections @125mgs keeps my total T between 680-720ng/dl
My T level before TRT was 167ng/dl.... something like that
Oh and I decide this on my own, and through the help of Eroids... Dr. had me doing 200mgs every 2 weeks .... too much of a rollercoaster ride
I would start @100mgs per week and adjust from there... good luck ... in a month, you'll be a new man!
Just pinned my first 100mg. Now the wait begins.:)
100 per week seems to be number that works best for me
QtripsOh boy, sounds like your doc has his head up his ass. The first doc I went to for this wanted me doing 150 mg every THREE weeks! Because he wanted it to be a trial!! Lol! The responses in this thread have been great so far, so I'm not going to reiterate, I'll just tell you what I wish I would have done instead of wasting a year trying to find a doc who had half a clue: I would have found this board and found a reputable source, bought test, adex, and hcg (I know some is bunk, so this is the only tricky one), and gone on myself starting at 150 mg of test a week and 2 .25 mg of adex twice a week, with at least 500 iu of hcg split up into two weekly shots. But also, before jumping on trt, get your adrenals, thyroid, and cortisol checked for us and post up your results. If you're uncertain of what tests to get, please, let me know! And I mean if you have ANY uncertainty! I feel for ya man, I've been through this ringer. We're here for ya.
I visit with my doc every 3 months and have blood drawn. He runs the basic lipid profiles and such. This last visit I requested the hormone panel and after viewing the results he suggested TRT.
So, I just finished my first injection using a 25g/ 1. Damn...these things are hard to run the oil through.
The pharmacy gave me Watson Test/C 200mg in a 10ml vial. Cost me 20 buck out of pocket. Oh, and the syringes and needles were 2 cents a piece.
The scrip says 2 refills until Jan.2014...a bottle every 2 months...Hmmm. 
I know this is Cyp, it takes awhile to release into the system, but when do you think I will start to notice a difference in mood and performance?
QtripsSince you had low test, probably 1-2 weeks. I know that about 6 days after my first shot it felt like I was high. And that's because I was...high on dopamine. This feeling runs out and then things get trickier if not everything is balanced, like iron, adrenals, thyroid, estradiol, etc.
It should be weekly injections atleast, by the time you go for your next injection your T will be close to zero again, your T will be up and down, up and down which is not good at all so ask for weekly injections.and 100mg a week would be much better for a healthier T level. If he is a stubborn ass then it might be worth running your own TRT
Thanks for the reply. My Dr. seems pretty reasonable and I am confident he will let me run at 100mg per week until the next lab reports come back. I pick up the script from the pharmacy in the morning. I was told it is a 10ml bottle with syringes and needles.
Hopefully, this will make a difference in how I feel and perform.
It definitely will bro, think of it as a turning point because you will feel so much better from this.
Tronweekly injections with a long ester are going to keep you feeling more level. Doctors are not that intelligent when it comes to test injections unless they have researched and spent some time on this subject. My dad's doctor had him on 1cc of 200mg of test cyp per month! My dad kept telling me he seemed to feel ok for a while and then not so ok. I finally stepped in and told him to try a lighter mg once a week and he has been doing so ever since for the past couple of months. He called me the other day and thanked me for the advice. Says he feels great now!
Great job helping out your dad.
I will definitely shoot for weekly or 2 times weekly injections.
2 times weekly would be best. mondays and thursdays is the normal protocol for twice a week injections
Anon100 a wk would be better obviously if you wanna end up on the high side. The highest weekly recommended dose I have seen for for true TRT is about 175mg/wk and even some would say 200, but anything more is generally considered a light cycle dose