+ 2 Trt
Well yesterday was a sad day. Was dreading the day when trt became a part of life but I’ve had bloods drawn 3 timed and did pct and tried to restart with hcg therapy to try and boost it but not luck once finished. My numbers are in the normal range at the low end. I’ve been working with an endocrinologist who hasn’t like my numbers in the bottom 10%. I started cycling just before I was 26. My total test then was 450-500. So I knew this was going to happen sooner or later. I just finally went to a doctor that knew what the fuck he was doing. So according to him it should help with the depression and sleep issues that I’ve had. He wants to see me from 950-1300. Started me out at 200mg a week and will adjust accordingly. And will get bloods done again on the 28th next month. Any advice on this will be appreciated
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What do you take, like 75mg/week?
125mg
Test E? - just curious, not trying to be nosey....
My script is for 1ml of test C (200mg/ml) every 2 wks. Bloodwork showed that was around 600ng/dl and my urologist was happy with that. For obvious reasons I didn't like 1 pin every two weeks. He said I could split it up and pin 1x/wk but I hate pinning so I experimented around a bit and now take 250mg of test und every other week. Bloodwork is coming back the same (600-650ng/dl) which keeps doc happy and it is a much better ride even with pinning 1x every two weeks.
I've been looking at the undec too, thought about asking my endo about it.
Probably have to go UGL. I asked but doc wouldn't prescribe it.
Know why - or he give a reason?
I don't think it is approved for TRT in the US. Not available in a mult-use vial as far as I know.
Isn’t that what they have been talking about using for male birth control in the uk. Don’t know just what I thought I heard
Just wondered, seems to be it would be a better option having the longer half-life. I saw a source here a while back with pharma grade, four 250ml amps I believe for $80, which isn't bad.
The actual pharma product comes in 1 4ml amp and was meant to be injected all at one time in the glute.
Ouch.....
I may be wrong about how that comes, maybe it was four amps with 1ml each at 250 mg/ml. Not sure, been awhile.
My endo likes me 800 to 1000. Shows how varied this all is.
Doc said he doesn’t care about the total just the free and bioavailable. How he described it to me was like think of you being a millionaire but it’s all tied up you can’t spend any or touch and all you have is 5 bucks in your pocket and that’s all you get to by your groceries with. It doesn’t matter what your worth is if you can’t spend it. So if your total test was 5000 but your below normal on your free and bio it doesn’t matter what your total is it’s already being used. So he wants to bring those numbers up. He said that’s the biggest problem with doctors is they only look at the total. Not the rest. And the others are what really matter
That is absolutely on the money right there. People get hung up on that "high" number but when you look at free and available and its nothing what good is it? I would rather have available test any day of the week. Thats also what separates people. Some people have low available and high total and others opposite. depression and lack of energy is mostly due to low free test at least according to my endo. I'm back lowered to 150 from 175 because my free test was getting too high causing my E2 levels to get a little high.
Its one of the things I look for when people post their bloodwork, some people show these massive numbers like 4500-6000 but you see their free test like 50-200 but their E2 is 65+ you know then.
Yeah last time I got blood work done I was at 425 and my old doc was like that’s cool your normal and I asked about bio and free and all he said was your totals good that all that matters hence why I went somewhere else. But he doesn’t want me on any AI because he said it estrogen is what helps keep the heart valves clean and the prostate functioning like it should. That most of the issues come from low teat are also due to low estrogen