posted Mon, 01/14/2013 - 17:43
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TRT @ 28 NEED ADVICE
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Sup guys I been a reader a while but recently joined as I was planing/ researching for my first cycle. Anyway I got my doc to run labs on my test levels to see where I'm at, he calls me up and say's I'm @ 334 and 12.2 free test. OK so he say's lets start 3 months of Test Cyp twice a month @ 200mg per pin.
I'm 28 5.10 170 13-14% bf working out 2 years
My question is I keep reading that it should be spread out twice a week or once a week?
Should I ask for anything to counter any possible sides HCG AI'S? will there be sides at that dose?
I know a lot of you guy's know more about it than a lot of doc's and mine was like hears the script... and let me pin myself in the office and sent me on my way..
Thanks for any help Dray..
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Small update and question im actualy doing 400mg every two weeks, 200mg/ml... anyway I was thinking of breaking it into 200mg a week as to try to keep it more stable any input.?
I know the doc whould would be the man to ask! but some time they do things what they beleve is best without considering an alternative.. Thanks for any replies
P.S. Its kind of like what pankration69 said Ii guess I was wondering what anyone eles thought about it....?
I agree with the unfortunately banned zewi on this. At the young age of 28 you never know what might change. Here's a link that you might find interesting. The main author in the thread, realgains, is an MD that has years of experience juicing and working with these compounds. He has doped athletes in every professional sport in the US. He also works with just your average dude too. If I were you I'd think about what he says as alternatives to trt.
http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-forum/letrozole-only-cycle-134318...
If you do continue on the trt I would highly recommend hcg usage. The main inhibitor of restarting test in your body is testicular atrophy. hcg at 250 iu every couple of days can prevent that for a pretty long period of time. If you do at some point decide to come off you have at least a chance of being successful and you won't wind up with raisins in your bag.
I personally think you would be better off doing a standard test e or c cycle of 500mg a week for 8 to 10 weeks followed by pct. After that see if you can use some of the other options available to keep your natural test up before your next cycle. During that cycle you'll get stronger, leaner and feel alpha. Its a great feeling.
Thank you for the link and the info, I started my 3 months of trt and will finish. In hopes my level stays in norm.. I'm not sure if I need hcg while only on 200mg a week.. But like I said thank you for your input it why I'm here it means a lot.
The amount of testosterone is not what determines need for hcg the duration does. 100mg per week is enough exogenous testosterone to shut your endogenous production down. The shorter the duration of use the less necessary hcg becomes. Your recover will take longer without hcg, in some cases much longer. Hcg is cheap and easy to use I highly recommend it for any cycle over 2 weeks.
I was thinking about asking the doc for some but that might not go so well. So I will order some from our SrS we have. 500 a week right.?
That was a noob nonsense question ill research hcg dosage I don't expect noob feeding. But thank you..
Yep split into 2 doses. Your nuts will thank you for it.
Thanks bud !!!
My first endo Dr had me on this protocol and for me my blood levels were very unstable and also my over all well being and energy levels. One week I would feel great another I would be dragging. Once I learned about the esters of testosterone and how the blood levels worked, did 200mgs every seven days and it made the world of difference for TRT.
Im feeling ok but i wondered if everything would be more stable at let's say a weekly injection as opposed to biweekly, I think I feel a up and down thing like you said. I'm also wondering if my levels will drop once we stop trt after 3 months...? Thanks for post info!
Dray
zewiHave you started this yet?
"Doctor says do Test Cyp twice a month @ 200mg per pin"--he is trying to start you back up.. The question i would have for him, is why is he going right after the TRT/Way of trying with this low dose.
Why is he not giving you HCG, HMG(Human menopausal Gonadotropin) and GnRH----these are proven to increase LH, which your testis need to make your natural TEST.
HMG-are natural hormones necessary for human reproduction Each vial of menotropin contains equal amounts of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH).
HCG-for men that have hypothalamic or pituitary malfunction, can take HCG 2 times a week for 6months to increase testis size so they are at their peak and producing test.
GnRH(Triptorelin )-stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH.
Don't get me wrong Doctors are doctors for a reason. However, you need to do research also, and come in asking questions brin up other options. TRT is hard thing and is for life---
To be honest I was just going about life feeling great but I started thinking about doing a cycle so I started research and that lead me to ask him to check my test levels. Once he said it was low and mentioned Test Cyp I got excited and was like hell yea..
Not really thinking about why I'm low at 28 I have a 5 year and we don't plan for more.. but I will research and ask him about the options you mentioned I really appreciated the input and feed back.
To answer your question Yes I pined myself at his office yesterday.
He said do it for 3 months than will check your levels I guess if they drop again Ill be on TRT for life..
I don't feel any different but it takes time I suppose at that low does plus the half life not sure when It kicks in or even if it kicks at that level.. its replacement not surplus..
thanks again
Dray..
Thank you for the advice I'm planing a cycle Should I wait for my test to go back to normal and then run my cycle and pct or just run a 12 week cycle of Test cyp and the continue on my recommended doctor cycle...? Thanks again
When is your next blood work scheduled? They usually like to have you on the cyp for three months before they check you again. You could start an 8 week blast now with short esters then let them clear out giving you time before your next blood work. That's generally what I do.
That's when its due 3 month from today or yesterday.. Ill look into that I was thinking of test cyp but ill look into short esters as it will be first unsupervised cycle if I can call it that.. Thanks again bud ill research into that get a good cycle and pct down...
He's giving you a therapeutic dose to try to get you back in the normal range. If you want to blast then you would up that dose substantially but he's not gonna do that for you. 200mg of cyp every other week is common practice by doctors for TRT.
Also, your sides will be low but could still happen. If you start to get bacne or itchy nips, your doc will absolutely get you on an AI.
Thank you for the advice I'm planing a cycle Should I wait for my test to go back to normal and then run my cycle and pct or just run a 12 week cycle of Test cyp and the continue on my recommended doctor cycle...? Thanks again
Sorry I replied wrong above not sure how to remove it.