Forum: Need Advice bad! ~hookemhorns2012, 2012

hookemhorns2012

posted Tue, 10/23/2012 - 07:44

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Need Advice bad!

Im a long time lurker on this site and now a new member. Im 28 y/o, 6'0 255 pounds,17% bf. Ive been on TRT now since December 2011. I currently take 140mg every Monday morning of Watson Test Cypionate. I just had labs drawn yesterday before my weekly shot and results came back today as follows Total Testosterone is at 590, Estradiol 50.0. I feel ok right now atmy dosage but feel like I could be doing better than I am. I do feel somewhat bloated but am not having any gyno or any bad e2 symptoms except for a little irriatability. How should I fix my dose? Do I need an AI? My doc is against having an AI but Im thinking about dropping him and going rogue to safe money on treatment because he charges alot. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I do want to stay with Testosterone Cypionate though over other forms of test. THANKS GUYS.

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Arock
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10/26/2012 - 15:40

NoviceAAs is spot on-
I'm 40 test is 300 and Estro is elevated over 45.
He wouldn't give me an AI cuz he said he doesn't prescribe those-

So this jackass doesn't care that my test is being robbed by the elevated Estro-

So to hell with the docs and there copays and all their fucking questions-

Ill self adminsister and draw bloods every 4-6 wks

I just ordered Caber and Aromatase
-good luck

~~Anon~~
Arock
10/26/2012 - 16:04

And something else you might want to experiment with is a low dose of proviron if you are going to try adding the deca for your joints. I didnt know about it and a few guys were kind enough to recommend it, . It will help your body make better use of the test you have. Check it out.
Ive been doing 25mg a day for 2 weeks now. Feel great , muscles have hardened up a bit.

Arock
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10/26/2012 - 17:23

Ill take a peek-
Thx

~~Anon~~
10/26/2012 - 03:10

The problem with just about every Dr is they dont listen to you. If you are feeling a certain way, or have learned certain things react with your body and it disagrees with his med school teachings then they'll just ignore you.
One thing Ive learned on this site over and over again is there is no one plan that fits everyone. Custom tailoring and adjustments are needed to any plan.
Try an AI and in a week you'll probably know how your body is reacting.
Keep the doc, just learn to adjust what he says

T_luva
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10/23/2012 - 12:48

I've been a TRT guy for several years now an have had horrible experiences with doctors. So now I do it myself, get my own bloods, you name it. At first, was injecting 200mgs cyp, bi weekly under doc supervision, didn't feel any better at all really. So after a few more nimrods, started to experiment myself and have found (like 1jakd_hipy), that 100mgs every 4-5 days is perfect. Try an AI and see how you feel, start off @.25mgs EOD and go from there. I usually run adex 3-4 weeks then drop it for a while and use as needed, but estro for me has never been an issue. Learned a shitload from this site as well. good luck brotha and keep us posted.

~~1jakd_hipy~~
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T_luva
10/23/2012 - 12:58

Running an AI year round would definitely make me nervous so I like your plan there, fortunately I blast about every 8-12 weeks so I think by the time I get any estrogen build up I'm back on cycle with Adex

meangreene69
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10/23/2012 - 08:21

I just started TRT last week and the doc has me on 150 of Cyp. once a week. I asked her about AI's and she said that they monitor estrogen levels. If it gets too high or out of whack she showed me the RX Arimedex...I couldn't be happier. I mentioned to her that I had done a cycle at the beginning of the year and hated the water gain. She said they will keep all of that in check...so maybe you should switch Dr's? I see your screen name is hookemhorns...are you in Austin? If so FR me and I can PM you the place that I go to. When I got my initial labs done my T was at 304, but my Estradiol was at 18.9...she mentioned that it was all out of whack, but she would help me get leveled out and get my T level elevated.

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meangreene69
10/23/2012 - 08:37

Yeah my Total Testosterone was at 292 but my estradiol was at 28.4 on my initial labs last November. Wish I was still in Austin but moved for work. Hope 150mg works good for you bud.

~~1jakd_hipy~~
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10/23/2012 - 07:49

I would try splitting your dosages to 2x a week and redo tests in 6 weeks or so, it should help with hormone fluctuation also getting your BF% down to around 12 would also help

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1jakd_hipy
10/23/2012 - 08:40

You think splitting the dosages would help my estradiol issues? Trying to cut weight bro I was 27% last year so ive come a long way. But your right 12% would be ideal.