-Some of this was copy and pasted from another post on another thread-

I'm 40 years old and shortly before 40 I tested at 306, I got more lab results in and my T had fallen to 269, that after spending $1300 on a mattress, and I really bagan researching the hell out of Clomid.

I've got two little girls so there was no way in the world I would do the Androgel, I told the doc that there was no way I would do that... and I heard it really wasn't all that effective. I told him I would do the test shots as a last resort. In researching Clomid, there have been numerous studies done that have proven it to be a viable alternative to test shots. Great results have been reported, with no sides, on 25mg a day and 25 EOD so I pushed for it. He sent me to an endocrinologist because he had never prescribed Clomid. I went to the endo armed with tons of info, stated my case, and he wrote the script. My insurance didn't/doesn't want to cover it, he's writing a letter now trying to convince them otherwise. Either way, I purchased a month's worth of 25mg (15 50 mg tabs) and started on Tuesday early evening.

On Tuesday I was worried it wouldn't let me sleep having taken it so late... so maybe I was apprehensive and it kept me from falling asleep as fast as I'd like. Other than that I felt a little bit of tingling in my testicles. I slept normally, and on a whim I decided to sleep without my dreaded night boot for my Achilles heel spur even though I had worked out legs hard that day.

I woke up on Wednesday without my Achilles hurting... not bad for after a leg day and no night boot. It got better. I put my feet on the floor and I was moving within two steps. Usually I walk around like a zombie for a few minutes. Then I went to go downstairs. Usually I hand rail zombie it all the way down in the morning. I just went down the steps like I had been up for hours. Was this the Clomid/higher test working, or was it placebo? I didn't/don't know. Wednesday during work went by without any crashing or feeling tired. I got home, went to the gym, worked out my back the hardest I had done in 6 months. The pain in my right shoulder and forearm wasn't there... that much... not enough to keep me from doing 5 plates for 10 reps on each side of the high rows. I had done 4 and a quarter the week before for about 5 reps on each side then finished with 3 more on the left. The whole workout was supercharged. The week before I struggled to do pullups, this day I was getting 5 pullups with 55 lb dumbbell between my feet. Placebo effect? Maybe... but I know the pain just wasn't that bad like it had been.

Thursday my energy was still good. My chest workout was actually a little worse than the week before as far as rep numbers. The week before I was consistently getting 6 reps of 110's on incline, yesterday I go 5 5x and 6 once. But I was able to workout to the muscle was done... something I hadn't been able to do... because of my left shoulder and because I would get physically exhausted. I felt good Thursday night and even had a little trouble sleeping because of all the energy I had.

Fast forward to 5 weeks later and I was on it for 5 weeks, aches and pains mostly went away, strength went back through the roof, I've got energy, feel better than I have since 25....but it's the numbers you've been waiting for...

Before Clomid 25mg a day test level was 269.

After starting Clomid 25mg a day test level was 798. It might have been slightly higher but I fasted for the 2nd test and didn't take my pill that morning before testing. I'm thinking if I had taken my pill that morning my test would be in the low to mid 800's.

As far as sex or sexual performance, even at low levels of T I had a ridiculously high sex drive, Clomid doesn't seem to have drastically done much to change that. I have noticed that once I finish it feels, a little better as I am producing and ejaculating more semen. instead of roughly 3 smaller loads of ejaculation, now there are 5 or so larger loads.

As for sides, because Clomid converts estrogen to T, there has been no gyno whatsoever, no tenderness, etc. Also, the headaches and blurred vision, floaters, etc usually associated with Clomid have never happened, possibly due to the smaller doses.