posted Sun, 02/12/2012 - 16:31
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+ 1 Blast & cruise or cycle & PCT?
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After researching and reading the forums I was set to blast and cruise, but now I am not sure that is the way to go. I am 44 5'9 170lbs and 14% bf. I have been lifting for 25 plus years mainly for strength and health. I have never used steroids or PEDs. I just took the first step and got my blood work done with the below results.
total test 476
free test 12.19
estradiol 18
IGF-1 183
T4 6.9
T3 uptake was high at 40
If I understand correctly this would be on the low range for a 25 year old. So would a low level blast and cruise say at 1 iu HGH day and 25 mg of test prop eod be the way to go? Or should I just run 1 or 2 cycles a year of test e with HGH and proper pct and keep an eye on the test levels after pct?
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Wish I had 476 :-((
I'm in 200 ish
tread-mThumbs up by the way, very rational approach and thought process.
tread-mYou pretty well rationalized through your question and found your own decision. The points are both valid and KMC makes a very good point, test levels are all over the place all day long and change with everything you do. So you may have got a number that you rarely hit in the high end or you may have got a number that is your low. I suspect it is the former with age but stranger things have happened. If you cycle and you feel like you're just not the same after the cycles over and your mood is dramatically lower because of the high then you consider cruising. What you know as your everyday test and have come to accept slowly may not seem so bad until you have something to compare it to. At least with a cycle you may have a better capacity to decide if the 400 mark is something you were truly happy with or if you had been put in water that was slowly brought to a boil and never knew you were being boiled..lol run a cycle and think it over, as KMC said its for life so take it seriously and look at it from all angles.
I've been cruising at 1000 mg. for six years. Omnadren, sustanon, deca, test e.
I use dianabol, turinabol, anavar, and anadrol every now and then.
The thing I enjoy the most about it, the relaxed and carefree mood that I've had all these years. I used to suffer from depression and anxiety and I've been off that medication since the cruising. Also there isn't any need for any ED meds which I find to be incredible.
Hi,
Sorry if this is the wrong place to put this.
Where in the UK can you get your bloods done?
Ta
hey there is nothing wrong with those numbers mine is at 426 and I feel fine
You are better off cruising on Test Prop. 1ml eod. For HGH min. of 2iu ed and only 2iu ed. Nice thing about a cruise that there is no pct just look in to al or aromasin 1/4 eod. Just doing a cycle here or there will just be a up and down roller coaster ride. There are eroidser on here that will help.
you really need to understand how your body will handle these compounds - everyone handles them slightly different. I'm 41 and have tested out different cycles and lengths and finally settled on one I feel the most comfortable will. I'm lucky since I don't experience much amortization while on and come off very clean with very quick recovery. But others have to take AI while on and/or have lengthy PCT.
I would recommend starting off on a low dose for a short 6 week cycle of just test. See you how feel while on and how your body adjusts during PCT. based on how you feel and what your gains were you can then make an educated decision of how you want to proceed next.
and I agree with eire - test prop is ok but you will feel like a pin cushion after a year or so - TE is the way to go IMHO.
im just wondering once your on your test cycle just for safety's sake you could before you think of an ai you could do a quick blood work and take a look at where your estregen is , is there a number specific to look for so you know 'ok at this number the test is converting to estrogen so start taking ai , instead of waiting for sore nipples to hit surely being proactive is better. as you said if the number remains good you dont take any AI's im sure the less chemicals you p;ut in your body the better.
personally man seeing as you are new to this. keep researching, track how you feel from day to day make note of any consistant moods, feelings ect overall how do you feel?
Talk to your doc. see if he is for or against you doing trt an open minded doctor makes it easier. Get an E2 test done also depending on your ref ranges your t4 is a little high. I agree with KMC trt is for life.
With all that said and done if you are going to do one of the two I would if I were in your shoes start a small dose trt treatment track how you feel and ajust. keep some hcg handy and ai or serums on hand.
well, test prop definatly wouldnt be my first choice to cruise on anyway....
tread-mTest prop is the only way I roll brother, xtreme control over your levels and how you feel vs an E or C that takes a great deal of teaking to hit paydirt. Give me prop or give me death...nectar of the Gods! Lol
Many things affect test levels, time of day, what you ate or drank yesterday, last time you had sex, or watched a interesting porno.
476 is nothing to jump off a bridge over. Everyone is different !!!
Tread will be along to add more.
Just remember TRT is for life !
ur right my test is 426 just got the blood work done at 47 I feel fine in fact still dealing with overt sexual desires and wishing this whole thing could go away ha ha.
Thanks. I think since I am new I will start with the test e cycle and see how I feel after pct as well as monitor test levels. It just seems like I am slowing down these past couple of years.
there is noting wrong with those in fact above average mine is 426 and feel great...