Liftheavy's picture
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Tobacco use?

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I was just wondering if any fellow AAS users, use tobacco as well. I know it raises your red blood cell count but I was wondering if anyone had ever run into any other sides or increased side from tobacco use.

SenseiMiagi's picture

Bad shit. Have been off cigarettes for 2 months or so. Have quit several times with varying success...really is a horrible drug. I had no problem stopping cocaine back in college, but the damned cigarettes are brutal. No reason cigarettes should be available for use. Zero positive qualities. I do hope this time it sticks because I feel great.

To your point, yes smoking raises rbc, rdw, mch, mcv, hemoglobin, and hematocrit. All of these are also affected by AAS. It also lowers immune response. Makes a bad situation worse.

JL's picture

Nope. Not after watching my dad die a slow and painful death over the last 5 years of his life from smoking most of his life. I've spent enough time in hospitals. Shit should be illegal! Bad for your health! Bad for society!

irongame427's picture

it really should illegal, causes cancer, but its legal? wft isnt the fda supposed to ban shit like that?

JL's picture

It's been a slow process. There are for more non smokers then smokers now days. The good ole us government and tabacoo company's and their lobbyists didn't want to lose billions in revenue and taxes! I believe with a few more generations smoking will be mostly a thing of the past.

true grit's picture

If they made it illegal, then someone would just start a review website where anonymous members can chat and review illegal online tobacco sellers. Perhaps ecigs.com

irongame427's picture

I quit smoking 1 year ago yesterday. I would try and quit if I was you, it was one of the best decisions I ever made. It was hard no doubt, but if you really want to do it its not that bad. Everyday during the first 1-2 weeks gets easier. Once you get past the first 3 days it gets alot easier. I just hope my body can heal itself and the 8 years of smoking didnt do that much damage to me. To answer your question, no i cant recall having any different side effects, although i can eat a little more now, smoking definitely supressed my appetite a bit.

Pale's picture

One of my earliest memories that really stuck with me was seeing my paternal grandfather in a hospital bed in the living room of my grandparents home on Oxygen yet still smoking..Even at 5 years old it was profound to me, I didn't even know or comprehend how bad cigarettes were yet I knew I shouldn't be doing that. His death soon after did nothing to slow down anyone else in my family.

Fast forward to my maternal grandmother. Chained smoked her entire life and sure enough it caught up. Dead at 54. She and I were very close and that one hurt really bad.

Next in line was my uncle, dead at 39, smoked like a chimney, drank and chased women. Dead of a massive heart attack. Again this one was crushing.

And finally the crown jewel, my father. His first heart attack in his early 40's did nothing to curtail his love of tobacco. Many, heart attacks, stays in the hospital including trying to light a cigarette with oxygen mask strapped to his face resulting in a long stay in the hospital intubated. The list is so long and painful... He barely made 60...Gone.

So you see I have a deep seated and painfully earned hatred for cigarettes.

vhman's picture

I used to smoke about 20 packs of cigarettes a day. Since I lost one of my lungs, it cut my smoking in half!

true grit's picture

Funny

Drop-set's picture

My mom has emphysema, ugly fucking way to go. Still smoking too...

true grit's picture

Ummmm, cancer?

Liftheavy's picture

I occasionally smoke a cigar on the golf course. I'm not a habitual user.

MedDx's picture

Occasional use of cigars will have minimal side effects. As long as you don't inhale, you will minimize further coronary artery disease secondary to carbon monoxide. The nicotine that does enter your bloodstream via highly vascular region like the mouth, lips and under the tongue, will still impact your body to some degree (i.e) vasoconstriction elevates blood pressure and so does aas, which also increases heart rate. Use wisely, don't abuse...you will have more energy without effects of nicotine in your body.

DSTER's picture

Shits for the birds, it's not as hard as people make it out to be to quit. Make a plan and drop that shit. It's all mental.

BigWA67's picture

Exactly shits garbage I smoked for 20 plus yrs and quit cold turkey no nicotine patches nothin just straight up will power