posted Sat, 11/22/2014 - 05:26
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Roid rage doesn't exist? Do you even lift bro?
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I've been having arguments with a couple of people that don't think that roid rage exists or is possible. Steroid aggression to me is super obvious just like it's obvious effect on your sex drive. I personally feel quite a bit different when I am on cycle then when I am off. I feel like if you don't at least notice that effect a little bit then you aren't using much or using something real. It's definitely possible that some people don't get nearly the change that others do but I can tell you that the aggression and sex drive effects are REAL! Any other opinions or funny stories?
I raged on my neighbor cause he talked trash about my dog and scared the hell out of him lol
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When I use tren I find myself being very impatient , and anger easily and have to remind myself to relax .
Anonlets take a poll.
1) have you destroyed your cell phone while on cycle?
2) have you broken any walls, doors, furniture while on cycle?
3) have you screamed at your spouse/significant other for not putting out while on cycle?
4) have you cheated on your spouse/significant other for not putting out while on cycle?
5) have you confronted anyone for looking at you wrong or for too long while on cycle?
6) have you ripped/ torn or destroyed any clothes because they have become too small while on cycle?
7) have you treated your spouse/significant other like shit because there is no food to eat when you were starving while on cycle?
8) Have you been kicked out of any bars or resteraunts because you were cussing too much and when you were asked to quiet down you exploded on the waiter/waitress/bartender while on cycle?
9) have you started your cycle with perfect skin on your knuckles and at any point during your cycle or finished your cycle with cuts bruises on your knuckles or broken knuckles?
10) do you own any affliction tshirts or clothing?
If you have answered yes to any of these questions you are suspect of having ROID RAGE. If you have answered yes to 3 or more of these you definitely have ROID RAGE!!
AnonJust looking at people in the gym (or anywhere really) wearing affliction shirts gives me roid rage lol
LoL, oh I'm fuckt...Now that this light has been spread upon me, is there a line for me to stand in...14)Do you own standing in line while on cycle?
HAHA. #10 is funny as hell.
Son of a bitch! #10 is my only yes, I haven't worn them in a couple years and seeing all the douce bags that wear them now I will never wear them again! I guess there is nothing left to do but burn them to get the stink off me now.. lol
AnonLmao!!! You're defintiely suspect of having ROID rage then bro:) Hahahahaha
I have long since realized the error of my ways. Just sucks to burn expensive goddamn shirts! I could sell them on eBay I suppose but then I run the risk of infecting some poor kid with the douchery them shirts bring.
AnonLol Im cracking up! We live and learn brudda. Luckily I'm a cheap bastard and stick to plain white Ts from Costco! Kirkland brand:)
I am back to wearing camo cargo pants, tank tops and hoodies these days. Every once and awhile they force me to dress up but it kills me.
Anybody that digs cargo pants, Sam's club has really cool levi's ones for like 15 bucks. I loaded up!
On a serious note. I noticed it on my first run with tren ace and it is still this way now. I am so much more empathetic and introspective/sentimental on tren. Sure I have noticed a bit of temper at times but nothing crazy. I am serious when I say tren helps me act like a better human being.
AnonWell my experience stems from trt. So it's a little different for me. I went from being extremely LowT to being on 100mg a week of Cyp. Not knowing how I'd feel I have to admit the added testosterone took me a while to adapt to. It was a struggle for me. I felt invincible. And arrogant once my body and mind knew I had changed. Libido was my down fall. It caused my marriage to suffer from it. When I starting to stack cycles together Id lose control a little bit. Irritability and impatience are my biggest
Downfall. After the experience that comes with time I can definitely echo your points about feeling more in tune with my emotions. The arrogance turned into confidence and being comfortable in my own skin. I've learned to communicate better becuase of my impatience and my irritability forced me to talk about my feelings instead of letti g them bottle up and eventually explod.
My added energy has forced me to work my body much harder. Regardless of what term used here it's important to take a personal inventory if our "rage" "aggression" "BP" changes our personality. I've got amazing people surrounding me and losing any of them becuase I'm being a dick just won't work for me. So I keep a tight hold of myself when I notice I'm being aggressive.
I can relate to all of that. The lack of libido and low recovery numbers as well as just feeling half of myself off cycle have led me to the TRT crossroads. I foolishly did not do bloods before I ever started AAS but I do know that the physical aspects of testosterone pale in comparison to the mental benefits.
Us older guys have the life experience to be able to recognize the slow decent we went through. When you get that initial rush of "manliness", for lack of a better word, there is an adjustment period. I am fortunate that I was able to keep my hyper charged libido in check and limited myself to my wife and maybe red tube, lol. Let's face it, women throw themselves at us. We are mature, we look fantastic, etc. But this all has helped made me realize how much I love my wife. This woman has stood by me while I risked everything and sometimes quite foolishly. I could never hope to replace the loyalty she has given me.
Carlos, you are a wordsmith brother. I know we have ventured a bit from the topic but the point is there are many facets to "roids", it isn't just about getting swole, for most of us older cats that is a distant second to just feeling vitality again.
It seems like a lot of you are taking this post personally or like I'm glorifying the term roid rage.
All I'm saying is that someone was telling me that aggression does not exist from taking AAS and I'm saying that depending on what you are taking it can DEFINITELY change your aggression. That's why checque, halo, etc are used many times anyway.
I'm not saying you can't control yourself just that you will feel the difference.
How so? What makes you think anyone took it personally? Or says you're glorifying rage? Seems that you're taking it personally
Umm.....did you read your other post?
Seemed pretty emotional to me. Maybe it's the rage!!! lol
Again, umm you want to elaborate? Umm, I can't decipher a persons tone in print. You can? And you shouldn't type out things like "umm". It's bad enough when ppl say it. It shows a lack of intelligence. Relax scrappy doo, i'm not calling you dumb. Just saying that its dumb to actually type out the non word umm when trying to be sarcastic. Use your wit. What about my post seemed emotional to you? Because it looks to me like the fact that you replied saying everyone took it personally, you are the one taking it personally
The term rage is over used by the media. Every time some rich spoiled famous user does something the media jumps on the rage bandwagon.
Most of us are generally healthier than the average population. I even feel mentally to some degree. I'm happier in better physical shape and have more mental clarity. So most of the anti rage statements are in defense of our lifestyle. The term rage was invented as a scapegoat for behaviors of those with power rips breaking laws thinking they can do anything. I can say I've hit less people on cycle ( 0 exactly) than before I ever cycled. I've never choked my woman out or raped a cheerleader. It's just a media driven term to make steroids appear unsafe to use.
Give a child power that they don't know how to use, they'll abuse it. That's where the concept originated from. I saw pics of lsd causing babies to be born with elephant trunks on their faces. ( all circulated by the government). I had an interesting youth, but none of my kids have elephant faces.
Aggression in the gym, bedroom and work, sure. An assertion and grip on life, I think so. But rage is deemed to be an uncontrollable anger. I've never experienced that one.
The term itself is what I believe everyone is grasping at here.
Speaking from my experience i think roid rage is a crock of shit made up by people to make excuses for being a dick..i was diagnosed with what therapist call "intermitten explosive disorder" but i never had any roid rage, maybe irritability but thats all..if i was being an asshole or got angered by something or someone and flipped out it would be the exact same reaction id have while not on gear..im real good at being a dickhead with or without any aas. It drives me crazy that when someone is pissed off people blame the roids and say its makin him act like that..fuck that, newsflash people,maybe ur just an asshole by nature.i know i am, i actually feel calmer while on cycle to be perfectly honest.
Are you serious? Wtf is this? Road rage is a juvenile thought originating from the propaganda machine in order to keep AAS out of the mainstream. Demonize it! Make it evil and its users capable of horrible things. Bottom line, if you subscribe to this bullshit idea of rage, then you're pretty shit brained and maybe need to reevaluate what you're doing with your life because you need a lot more help than steroids can give you. Rage is merely irritability caused by elevated blood pressure and high RBC. If you don't stay very well hydrated and properly burn off energy , you'll start feeling irritable which can easily be viewed as "what a dick" but the juvenile mind says "iM gona FUCKIN RAGE OUT ON THIS BITCH YO!"
(edit) I'm making a concious effort to try and be nicer to ppl and don't say negative things unless absolutely necessary. Honestly , you seem like you're about 16 to me. Sorry but your thinking and the way you process the things you read is a head scratcher. But I'll chall it up to getting lost in translation or being unable to decipher tone in print. Ohh and you feel the drastic changes in sec drive because testosterone is the primary src hormone. So yeah naturally if you spike it, you'll feel more like a sex machine. There is no roid rage hormone. We don't experience Must like elephants. So if we run with the idea of rage, it's because we want to. Because we think it's cool or some shit
Roid rage is just a pop culture term that has been given to the increased aggression given from steroids.
I don't get what you are saying......you don't think that steroids can offer aggression and mental changes? You agree that it changes your sex drive but don't agree that other mental effects can be present? Hmm.....
I have no idea what you find so juvenile from my post since you say I seem 16 years old. Is bringing up this subject taboo for you or something? A lot of people take certain compounds SPECIFICALLY FOR the aggression that they offer. Cheque drops, methyltest, halo, etc.
I think its total bullshit myself. Just like when someone does something really stupid or gets out of line over nonsense then blames the gear. It's just a crutch for someone to act like a dick and have an excuse. Sure you have elevated aggression and what not but if you fly off the hinges then i think you've just fed into what the media has hyped it up to be. Just my .02
Roid rage is an excuse for assholes to be even more assholes. Nothing more nothing less.
So you are saying it doesn't exist and it's only in people's heads? Sorry bro but that's crazy. It's a HUGE difference for me. I'm not a dick on or off cycle but I certainly have to keep myself in check way more when I'm on. Try using some androgens maybe if you haven't experienced this.
there is a difference between feeling aggressive and being a Fing Asshole ....
Agreed. But the mental change from test is real. Not some placebo. You can keep it in check but it certainly exists.
Yeah the mental change of an overwhelming sense of well being? Energetic? Happy go lucky? Because if you're contrilling your estrogen and on an adequate dose of test, this is all you'll feel. The phsychological changes in the brain can't be attributed to the AAS alone. No way! And if so, I want to see the examples and I want to know where their pressure, sugar, blood oxygen and RBC are in that moment.
I do run test ..." roid rage" is bull shit .. not being able to control your self because you juice is bull shit period. I don't see anywhere that anyone says that there is no "mental" change.
So what are you saying than? That you agree with me but you can control yourself? That's exactly what I'm saying. Roid rage is just the publics term for the increased aggression of steroid use.
Currently using Masteron. This roid rage is like when people blames alcohol for doing stupid shit
I def believe it exists. I also think high BP or estrogen being out of whack could play or does play a huge role in it. With that being said, I also believe it depends on how much and what you are running. I can run test Decca cycles and be easy going most of the time, but when I run test tren cycles I'm pretty much a fucking dickhead ( my wife's exact words ) no matter how much I'm running.
Iron_MonkMost roid rage imho is just people not controlling their blood pressure and estro properly and exploding from the stress and anxiety
These are effects given to the user from the AAS that they are using. Ergo....effects from AAS themselves.
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Look at how many grumpy explosive older men there are out there. Their test levels have declined.
I feel more in control when I'm on. I don't have the need to display the alpha male. Pheromones are already doing that for me. I can laugh shit off I normally wouldn't be able to. If I let my blood pressure spike above normal, I'll have a constant anxious feeling and it's easier to lose my cool.
I'll give some credence to it while on tren. Normally I'm just as happy. But let one aspect of life get fucked up and it can become an obsessive, sleepless disaster. But again, the balance is disrupted. Lack of sleep, elevated blood pressure, and increased estrogen or prolactin aren't going to make a healthy homeostasis.
Grumpy explosive old men; that shit was funny
Lol. I truly attributive it to estrogen and decline of natty levels. I have a close business associate I've watched turn more grump in the last ten years. I've seen the physical decline, and he's a lot quicker to snap. He attributes his rage to high test. We talk about my activities some. He claims he's filled with this natural high test rage. I seriously think his levels are declining, his estro levels are still where they were, and he's out of balance. There have been a couple occasions where I thought of giving him a quick jab in the flutes to cheer him up. Lol
RustyhookerAnd when I'm on cycle with super high test levels and feel edgy while I know my estro is crashed for hard dryout? Dht causes aggression. But it's the owners decisions on their actions.
I like the terms aggressive and assertive.
I think " rage" truly is a bullshit term.
Crashing estro on purpose is hardcore. I Know I couldn't ever compete. The few times I've done it learning weren't good times for me. I like mine at nice steady 35-40. Lol
RustyhookerGUFSTASON!!! LOL!
PUTZ!!
RustyhookerHaha! I can see Greg on his porch sneering.
With a broom in his hand LOL
That's because from where we sit, there are more stupid young people out there. Not because of our test levels.
Now get off my lawn!
I'll get off the lawn, but I have enough gray hair these days I was hoping for an invite to sit on the porch for a spell. I'm not aging so gracefully. Lol
I get the feel goods and increased control when running test and many other compounds too. I use to think roid rage wasn't possible either and i've tried quite a few compounds, but that was before i tried tren. Tren made me a super asshole and I thought I had self control under wraps, my estro was kept low with aro and pharma caber to keep prolactin at bay, but that didn't make everything ok. I had a bit of decreased sleep but not the horrible insomnia that many mention so I don't think that played into it either. I had a few moments that I'm not proud of while running it and as a result I will NOT be using it in the future. Tren definitely helps to produce results but it isn't worth how it effected me, to each their own though I know many say they don't have any problems with anger on it, I'm just not one of those people.
Yes..."roid rage" is attributed to high bp
If you were a dick before; it makes you a bigger dick. It all depends on how Alpha you are. Since I started therapy I have noticed some of my asshole tendencies pop back up and my wife did too; it's just a matter of recognizing it and curbing it to a degree. She tells me to save it for the gym and the ring. As far as aggression in the sack; its the dopamine I'm addicted to in that department.
AnonI definitely think it exists to varying degrees. I believe its dependent on the individual. I dont really get it too much but I do notice more impatience and irritation with people at the gym.
But I dont think its a viable excuse for someone being a straight dick to people. If a person believes it's the steroids that make them an asshole, im pretty sure they were an asshole before the steroids as well ;-P
Not directing that at you or anyone specifically btw, just my humble opinion.