posted Sun, 07/02/2023 - 17:53
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+ 2 Is anyone else freaked out about Jo Lindner/jo aesthetics death?
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I am 7 years older then this guy running a pretty decent size cycle. Cant help but become a little paranoid about my age and steroid use. Has anyone heard of anything like this?
I knew a phlebotomist in Florida that drew his own blood to help with high hematocrit after a work out. Took a nap and never woke up. Thats the only early death i knew PERSONALLY from this type of life.
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That’s the whole purpose of the news. To create anxiety. Chances are whatever finally gets us we will never see coming and never gave it a second thought.
His family, I genuinely feel for them and thousands of other family members because when all well and done, their the ones picking up the pieces. Hopefully they won't be reading any social media trolling bullshit.
Exactly this, I do think most of us are above it.
Lifted-presence92It’s was a brain aneurysm that killed him.
Plus if you’re going off his word he claims he didn’t use big cycles if that’s true I bet like 90% the dudes on here have run or are currently running cycles high mg for mg plus using compounds they have no business using. We all know the risk associated with steroids we all make the personal decision to use them so you gotta be ok with the outcome whatever it maybe. He was also vaccinated with two boosters I’d be way more scared if I got vaccinated.
SwaveyDPersonally, I’m not scared. Since day one (5 years ago) I’ve been cautious with the amount of shit I inject. I’ve always been a “do more with less” than the opposite.
With that being said, death can happen to anyone at any point in time and I think we sometimes forget that. If you want to run massive cycles, so be it.
Sad that we lost Jo, but his “legacy” will live on in other ways.
The main take away from this, is to get bloodwork done. Check D-dimer and for anyone on cycle, doing things to keep blood thin and BP low is always a good thing. I eat raw garlic cloves, take omega 3, and curcumin ALWAYS before bedtime. Blood clotting is always more likely to happen from 10pm - 6am. When it's you're time, it's time.
SwaveyDIt’s scary to me how many people just say “oh high blood pressure? No issue” — I get it, healthcare isn’t cheap, but if you’re doing dangerous things, you have to weigh these things as it can quite literally mean life or death
Agreed, when it's time to go it's time to go. But....we can do certain things to speed up the process or prolong the process. And at other times it hits ya all of a sudden and you're gone in a quick minute. Never knew what happened.
For sure!... I think it's mainly blood pressure that causes aneurysms... or a weakening of arteries. Not blood clotting. Wups.
We'll probably never know the real cause of what really activated his aneurysm.
Let's just say that gear was the cause, which we don't know yet. What I'm seeing is guys not wanting to believe that this type of thing can even happen. Some guys will blame it on everything else besides the gear lol. And if vacc shots were his problem I'll accept that but on the flip side some guys will blame the gear. Crazy situation man.
Lifted-presence92Also the thing is with users dying from “gear” especially pros when they pass the media or outlets on YouTube don’t mention the opiates and other drugs being used by that individual. Yes steroids are a determining factor but the depletion, drug use and dehydration prep after prep is what kills these pros. Guys going from 300 down to 260+ in a matter of weeks is insane!
Drugs being ephedrine, clen, opiates, diuretics things like this.
I agree with that. The media does balme it on steroids as the main headline even though half way through the article it mentions his use of drugs and other illegal substances
No doubt other drugs come into play. See this touches me kinda different because I lost a friend many years ago in his early 20s just being plain reckless with gear. I mentioned this a few times already and I'll keep on mentioning it. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation though. It just hits different when you see it up front and personal. Ya know I remember him saying these exact words one day..." live fast, die young." And that's what exactly happened. Dude basically predicted his own early death. That still bothers me.
Lifted-presence92Well when you mess with rec drugs and become addicted there is only a few options.
Jails, institutions, or death. Recovery is a beautiful thing Brotha i thank god every day I hit the bed and every morning he allows me to wake up.
In his case there was no recreational drugs. It was juice..his reckless use of it. Fact. But glad you're fortunate and alive cause he wasn't so fortunate. We can't confuse being reckless using juice with being reckless using recreational drugs. Usually same result I know. Folks either don't understand or don't care about certain risks.
Lifted-presence92Yeah being wreckless wirh rec drugs will kill you much much faster!
Yep. Sure will
You are exactly right bud, just read the main causes of aneurysms are high blood pressure over many years which causes weakening of blood vessels and the build up of fatty plaque causing weakness in the blood vessel wall - both of these caused by running gear.
I’m saying this with no disrespect whatsoever, but everyone dies, all of us will have our day, it’s part of the deal. Quite a few people don’t make it to 30, because, they just don’t. Enjoy every day fellas.
I didn't follow Joe but I've seen a few of his videos throughout the years. His chest movements always looked strange to me, I've never seen anything like that before. Anyways it's always a tragedy when someone dies, especially young. I've read alot of these comments but all we can do is assume or guess. We can speculate about the vaccines or his gear usage but the autopsy will be more accurate than anyones guess. I'll say this when it comes to this lifestyle, death don't give a damn about anyone's age.
That's because he had a rare muscle disorder called rippling muscle disease. Side effects are hypertrophy of muscles including heart, cardiovascular problems including CLOTS. So when he flexed is when it caused these problems to exacerbate and made these weird type muscle movements where they would fire weird or stay contracted for 30 second to a minute after he stopped. People would be cool increased muscle from this but it doesn't discriminate between which type of smooth muscle gets bigger hence the heart.
Those chest contractions definitely weren't normal. Anyways so man I didn't know that. Thanks for that info. Ya know that's exactly why I said what I said. Everyone speculates. This guy is dead regardless of what the cause. Most will either say steroids, or the vaccine, or even the combination but they don't think about what this guy's underlying issues might of been. I don't know the answer and we may never get an answer
Granted I think it was all combined with his gene mutation and I would have never known about it till I researched it and found out he had that. Then reading more studies the two main things was the enlargement of heart and all the cardio sides. The thing was he just found out about it but since it is autoimmune he most likely was born with it and after years of doing AAS and if you add anything that increases IGF1 , hence HGH he was prone to die early. The thing is it is so rare and some have mild sides of spasms that they might take as cramps but I heard his were insane and that is why he finally got it checked out. I am just trying to get the facts out there because this might be some rare thing. Also if anyone who donated plasma one of the main sides is blood clotting and for people using AAS I would not advise it. Even though it is rare we put ourselves at more risk.
We may never get an answer but the easiest answer to me is underlying condition which the main sides are cardio and his use of AAS , diuretics and others.
We definitely can have good assumptions going by his history. Just can't say for sure.
RustyhookerHe died from taking 4 covid vaccines. #1 side effect is......blood clots
I don't understand people who after everything that's happened, they still don't comprehend what garbage those MRNA shots are. They're not new, its the same ones they developed for HIV and those caused blood clots, heart attacks, reproductive problems.
Lifted-presence92Rusty is awake not woke he knows the data is out now if people don’t believe this.
I’m not sure why this has 3 downvotes, it’s only his opinion. I’m no conspiracy guy and I take no side on the matter, however, I don’t think it can be denied that there have been adverse reactions to the vaccine, in some cases these reactions were fatal. As with anything that’s put into the body there’s risks, vaccines included. And yes it has been verified by the medical community that there is a risk of blood clots.
Edit- Bad medical or drug advice certainly deserves downvotes, more than they usually receive, but an opinion? I’m not sure that’s cool…
RustyhookerBecause the betas get scared when reality pops up its lil head. When they went out and demanded more vax and theyre next.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/off-topic/just-happend-covid-facts
Aneurysm
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/jo-lindner-...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9227511/
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/03/31/after-covid-19-experts-say-watc...
https://search.bvsalud.org/global-literature-on-novel-coronavirus-2019-n...
Thanks for putting up the facts that the COVID 19 virus causes blood clots.
Lifted-presence92I’d be mad and scared like you If I got the vaccine to bro ya gotta stop projecting….
You little beta I bet you anything your created this account just to cry on here about this topic and you have an actual account you jump into conversations with and you’ll be recognized stop being a scared little boy…
You know this is true that’s why you’re about to cry about it and defend yourself in the dumbest way when you could just own it but ya won’t.
Everyone gets offended so easily when someone has a different point of view now, hence the downvotes. It’s this new generation. We can’t express our opinions without cancel culture taking hold of the conversation. I agree with both your comments.
There is a difference between an opinion and spewing lies or stuff that ist true. Me saying Kobe is better then Jordan is someone's opinion. You can have an opinion as long as it isn't defrauding the true facts or other scientific info.
Spewing lies? No one on here is spewing lies, instead of disliking all the posts in the thread like your doing how about you go do some research, and also post your references backing up your RMD theory with “true facts or other scientific info”
Did you carry out his autopsy?
Have some respect instead of trying to gain political points from the death of BB's. The guy had been complaining about neck pains for some time.
the autopsy wont show the vaccine killed him, even if they could determine it was cause from that the blowback would be insane and they just wouldnt put it in writing. I believe unless you overdose they cannot attach a specific medication to the cause of death. like theyll be able to say aneurysm but not aneurysm from vaccination. And to your point about complaining for a long time. he also had been complaining about vaccine side effects as well
Full autopsy isn't posted, a preliminary autopsy probably is though. Big difference. Full autopsy takes a while and is way more detailed.
Rustyhookerhttps://www.eroids.com/forums/general/off-topic/just-happend-covid-facts
He didnt die of neck pain. The autopsy is posted.
Yeah I heard he was complaining of neck pain.
Again, I’m not taking a side. Here’s one out of dozens, the research has been done and results are coming out. Medical facts are medical facts.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots
Also this was Johnson and Johnson vaccine not the others.
Side effects in 0.000333% of patients is actually really impressive. Those numbers are totally efficacious especially compared to the 5.3% of people having adverse side effects to clinically administered trt.
RustyhookerSee! Youre gonna die ftom gear use at 30! Like millions upon millions run cycles for nearly 100 years now. How many die from gear again? Lmao
I just turned 31 and had just finished a cycle, good thing I stopped blasting before 31, or id be dead, am I like a scientific miracle? Should I call yale so they can start studying me? or will i die tomorrow lol? good thing I didn't get the gene therapy shot
RustyhookerWas there a point? A question? You almost tried to sound edumakated.
Again, I’m not looking for a debate, and there’s dozens if not hundreds of case study findings coming out. I don’t know where you got your numbers, but here’s one legitimate example of mine.
https://ncirs.org.au/how-common-are-severe-side-effects-covid-vaccines-a...
For the record, I had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. Only because my employment was threatened. No response from the first dose, the second made me ill with the same symptoms as the virus that I had already had. Blood pressure stayed at 160/100 even at rest for roughly 5 days. I’m not anti vax, I just prefer to have all the long term data before we are forced to take a medicine that offers little to no benefit with side effects that are proven. Answer me this, if you never had Covid-19 or the vaccine up until this point, would you willingly, under no duress, go and get the 2 doses of vaccine and all the recommended boosters?
I based it off your first study. 60 people out of 18 million administered doses is .00033%. Your second story says “ It occurs in around one in 50,000 is a little worse but still 0.002% The odds of getting hit by lighting are 1 in 15300 which is 0.0065%.
It seems like your not reading your own studies. Or you dont understand them.
The odds aren't what matters, even if its one in a million it still happened, jo just happened to be that one. You cant say to someone who got hit by lightning "well the odds are 1 in 15300, so it didnt happen"
I wouldn’t want to be the one out of 1,000,000,000,000 that lost my life due to a government mandated injection that I don’t agree with, I prefer to live my life on my feet, not my knees. So, for the sake of discussion, you didn’t answer my question. Knowing that the vaccine absolutely comes with a level of risk, the number is not zero, you even agree with that. Knowing there’s risk involved and the vaccine does little to zero for any protection or benefit, would you take the first doses and all recommended boosters? Personally I wouldn’t. But I’m curious to hear your answer to that. Thank you.
So clearly you figure the shot does nothing beneficial. All you had to say man.