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Im so f-ing pissed off

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So Im 4 weeks into my first 10 week cycle. I feel great, Im doing well. Im on Test Prop (EOD). The pinning isnt too bad but some pins are worse than others. HCG isnt bad at all. I also use Arimidex.
Before I decided to buy I had stalked this site and read a lot of posts and reviews. I planned a good basic noob 1st cycle. I figured Id test the waters and I bought vials from a few different sources. I bought cycle therapy and pct too. As for the test, I figured the risk would be a weaker batch from one at the worst but in the end they all showed good results. Test Pro had a quick friggin jump start too (about a week) so I could tell they all were working well.

I forget whos advice it was, but I read that I should buy extra (just in case). He advised double,"Buy double of everything" . but who the fuck buys double of their first cycle? Especially if you dont know if the first one is gonna be legit or if I even want to finish the cycle.
So, I did buy an extra vial. (I nneded 3.5 and bought 5.)
I noticed that they come packaged different. 2 of the sources sent the vials with the metal wrap at the top. One souce set it with just the rubber stopper.
So, The other day Im pinning. I just nuked some water in a bowl to rest the vial in (warming the vial thins the test and its an easier pin). I finish pinning my HCG and prep the test pro. . I re-clean my hands, I wipe down the vial top. I pull the vial out of the bowl and rest it on the counter. I pull out the needle. I poke the needle in the stopper and push 1.25 ml of air in it. I go to pull the 1.25 ml of test out and I invert the vial and the fucking top popped off and the fucking vial dumped all over my hands and lap.
I felt like a total jack ass. What the fuck? That shit popped out with barely any pressure in it. more than half of a vile was totally wasted. Thank god it wasnt my last vial and thanks for the advice to buy extra. Thsnks for listening to my rant....

LifeOnMars's picture

I have never had that happen. That would be sucked if that was your last vial. Its smart to buy extras just to be sure you did the right thing and it paid off.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I just nuked some water in a bowl to rest the vial in

Worst thing you could ever do even with well sealed bottles!...... water is THE major source of bacteria, never get bottles or vials wet under any circumstances...... always use a dry source of heat... i.e top of a radiator or hair dryer etc. etc.

irongame427's picture

Yup, easy way to contaminate your gear. If your gonna do it a heating pad works greatly, but recently I've done some experimenting between heating it or not and the pip was exactly the same. For some reason I actually had zero pip in my glutes when the recent trend was I would get some Everytime. So I don't heat it anymore.

birdbear27's picture

I hardly ever get pip anymore at all. And when I do it's like seeing an old friend from way back. LMAO. My old pal pip.

mikeyd3's picture

I got the idea from a Docs youtube tutorial for TRT . I thought it was brilliant to make the dose easier to go in but nothing is worth risking a bacterial infection. Thanks for the heads up.

birdbear27's picture

The way I do it is I put my loaded syringe gently under my armpit for about 5-10 min. Gets it right up to the perfect temp to be injected nice and smooth. Try it out bro.

But anyway. Post pics of your exploded vial.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

Between your butt cheeks would work better...

mikeyd3's picture

I tried the butt-cheek method. I forgot about it and sat on it. Nothing bad happend but my turds came out benching 315. I just hope it doesnt cause hem-roid rage...

birdbear27's picture

birdbear27's picture

Could I use yours instead? Mine aren't nearly as appealing. With the frequent poops and such.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

"With the frequent poops" LMAO

Why are poop jokes always funny.

superman75's picture

because we are all little boys who refuse to grow up in one way or the other hun lol...ooh and a good fart goes a long way for a good laugh as well.

birdbear27's picture

Lol. ALWAYS funny. And farts are the king of comedy. No matter how bad the smell.

mikeyd3's picture

I posted the pics under "multiple varieties"
Im wondering how long it takes for the "Im a dumbass" feeling to go away.

birdbear27's picture

I think you just opened it incorrectly bro. You got too excited and tore that shit open like a 10 year old opening Christmas presents. My guess is when you popped the centerpiece out you tore the rest of it and removed the crimped part as well. Could be a design flaw. If its that easy to remove the whole damn crimp. You have another vial of the same style that exploded? Try popping the top and make sure the surrounding metal piece doesn't come off. It should only expose the rubber in the center on the top of the vial. Post pics of it after popping the cap. You only get one pic post a day so just add it to the current one.

mikeyd3's picture

I do tear into shit like a kid BUT I just popped the unopened top and posted pics. The first pic shows my plastic cap unadulterated., The second shows it flipped up but the foil shows its (designed?) to tear all the way back.
Im gonna keep it "as is" and pull from it only partially opened. But that crimped foil is designed to un-wrap at the first use.

birdbear27's picture

If that is in fact how its supposed be opened, that's a really horrible design. So there's no way to open that vial without completely removing the surrounding metal? The metal is there to keep what happened to you from happening. The vial with the red label is what its supposed to look like. You should never have a vial with a stopper that just sits there with nothing holding it in place.

birdbear27's picture

Edit the source names outta that comment quick bro.

Nitti's picture

I noticed that they come packaged different. 2 of the sources sent the vials with the metal wrap at the top. One souce set it with just the rubber stopper.

Are you saying that the "metal wrap" (seal) was off one of your bottles and just the rubber stopper was there? Are u kidding me?

mikeyd3's picture

Sorry , I should clarify. When they shipped, they boxed and sealed. After you " pop" the top, ( material provider 1) and others have a permanent metal rim all around . You can only push the pin in the center of the top. ( material provider 2) labs had a plastic cap over an aluminum rim that is like tin foil. All that comes off and When it's in use it's only a rubber stopper.

birdbear27's picture

That got me perked up real quick. I would've been on the horn with the source the second I opened my pack if there was no crimp on my vial. What the fuck?

McMeanie87's picture

Man that's terrible, talk about unsanitary.

Nitti's picture

That's not only unsanitary. But the source who sends out something like that is pretty fucking absent minded and god knows what he did while brewing! Man you need to take pics and post them for everyone! Can't have shit like this happen

DSTER's picture

didnt even see that, thats fucked.

DSTER's picture

when you heat vials dont add additional air because when you heat it your already creating pressure inside the vial.

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Greg's picture

Half correct. You're expanding air; creating pressure. Without adding air you'll have a vacuum when it cools.

Insert a needle to vent.
Add air and draw.

Or, draw first as you've suggested, then insert a needle to equalize pressure after.

mikeyd3's picture

Thanks for the heads up. From youtube vids the doc always suggests to aspirate but his didnt have the procedure of warming the oil before dosing the syringe. Its also tough to predict what the pressure is like before inserting the pin. Your answer solves the problem with venting. At first I was leary of that cause I thought the ambient air may contaminate the oil but then I realized, its impossible not to use the ambient air cause thats what we aspirate with anyway.