hgh and test therapy
I see an old thread popped up here where I was looking for experienced hrt users to compare my self imposed hrt therapy with and thought I would ammend and share my sweet spot. I have found about 100 mg's eod of prop along with 2 iu's of hgh to be my happy place over the experiment period. Have ran hrt for almost 27 months now between cycles and have seen and felt the age peel away in several ways. A lot more energy, better skin, joints feel great, recovery is good and quick and just have an overall healthier outlook. Ij use a lot of supps for the extra help and health which include some of the key supps such as coq10, glucosamine chondroitin, turmeric, saw palmetto and all the basics in addition to the normal protein and creatine, vitamins etc. The point of the thread long before the old bastards forum was to find like experiences so bring those if you have them or I'll see you in the official hrt/trt zone!
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Why don't you try a Hpta restart with clomid and tamoxifen? Studies have shown it to be very effective in all age groups and it has worked for me personally. If successful, on average it has been shown to boost endogenous T into the mid-high range.
IMO, I would rather have my own body producing T than be dependent on exogenous T. I suppose it comes down to what your goals are and your personal preference.
AnonI've had this discussion with my husband but in a somewhat different vein. We've talked about how he doesn't need to do PCT since his system doesn't make much T on it's own normally. He hasn't really shut his own system down, it already did so on it's own. I am not so sure that a few weeks off wouldn't be called for. Although I can see the benefit of having a maintenance dosage, I would think that it would have to be pretty low. I really haven't really looked for information on it and I suspect that you won't find much out there. Kind of like finding info for women. My only concern is that synthetic hormones have been linked to the development of cancer. (I originally started all this by researching bio identical HRT because I was experiencing some issues of my own and realized that my man was probably LOW T). I do know that my husband does take about 4 -5 weeks in between cycles taking nothing but with the understanding that it takes time for his system to clear. So just about the time his system is clearing he is starting back on another cycle. And as for my concerns regarding cancers linked to synthetic hormones, it is a well known but not often spoken fact that people with the proper PH balance internally cannot support the growth of any type of cancer cells. So I make sure we supplement with the types of things that balance our PH.
tread-mThat's good info....what do you use for your ph therapy? I may already be using most of that but like to share! If you guys have never used HGH, even as low dose therapy, you would be amazed at your blood work. Everything is picture perfect after about 6 months. In fact my little brother (about 40) had a surgery to reconstruct his orbital socket from a fight about 2 years ago and the surgeon told him this: "I have only seen health like yours in cases where I did surgery on babies. You have literally no fat in your facial tissue and all of your muscle and tissue looks brand new like a babies"! He then told the doctor he was using test and hgh and his surgeon is working to get a pre and post operation health clinic to incorporate the therapy in his patients. What really did sealed the deal for the surgeon is that at his 2 week check up he looked as though he had not even had a surgery. He said I felt like a freak because he called all of his team in to examine him during the post surgery check up. As my brother asked what the big deal was the Doc told him, "well the big deal is that in 2 weeks you are healed to the degree we normally see at 2 months"! Again, blood work is absolutely amazing on hgh therapy and I assume your ph would have to be in almost perfect check to achieve that degree of health. Saying that, I know we are all different and respond differently to everything we do. To kind of add to either the mystery or my theory about the very small amount of prop every 3 days as maintenance, my testicles return to normal size once I leave the higher volume on cycle usage and go to the maintenance level of prop between cycle. This indicated to me that my body might have accepted the low level prop as the norm....Ok there it is, talking about my stones with strangers again! Maybe that's where my "therapy' should be focused.lol
AnonI've considered using HGH but have been putting off trying it because of the issues about getting a reliable source and possible side effects. It seems like your brother has some amazing results. I use an antioxidant drink which combines fruits, tumeric, green tea, (I order it from an online company) and several others as well as trying to make sure that we include lots of green veggies and the like in our diet. You can google alkaline diet and get a list of the foods. Don't be weirded out by some of the sites because they get a little carried away with the what not to eat which is basically protein. It would be nice to find some place that doesn't swing so far to the left or right. As for your "stones" I just told someone yesterday that if they didn't stop and listen to the advice given here they were gonna end up with boobs like mine... can you pm with your source for HGH, I'd like to check it out.
If you don't mind I'd like to get the source for the antioxidant drink. Thanks
If you don't mind I'd like to get the source for the antioxidant drink. Thanks