posted Sat, 08/15/2015 - 21:11
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Dreading PCT
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I feel fantastic on AAS. I have incredible energy and stamina is through the roof from the EPO effect of Anadrol and B12 injections. I'm really not looking forward to PCT - weakness, lethargy, muscular atrophy, depression etc. Does anyone have any advice on how to ride it out? My baseline test was 28 nmol. How long till I get back to a similar number post-cycle all other things being equal?
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RustyhookerFirst cycle. If you're dreading this you'll not enjoy the tren you keep asking about.
rocketballzI incorporated Ostarine, an hcg blast of 1000 iu's eod the week before start of pct, clomid, nolva, daa, horny goat weed, and tribulus and I haven't crashed yet. Only two weeks into pct but the Ostarine and hcg blast are imo why I didn't crash. I've lost some water weight but so far kept almost all of my lean muscle gains. Like the vets below said....eat eat and eat again. Good luck bro
We've all been there man but it come with the territory. Keep eating big so you don't lose your gains and watch out for estrogen rebound. I used adex on my last cycle and suffered badly with rebound. I will incorporate aro next time during pct for sure.
mikeyg4321Everybody is say I g what I would say and do too man. Keep eating heavy and clean. Yea you may gain a little fat or so but thats better than losing muscle.
Hcg helps me a lot with post cycle crash. I would definitely get you some. Might read this too. https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/understandin...
HCG is great stuff. I do 250iu every third day on cycle. I'm not going to use it during PCT though. Once enough of the long ester is out of my system there should be no need to keep stimulating leydig cells. They(leydig cells) can get resistant to it(HCG) if you use too much or when not needed. Some may disagree with this approach but it's the way I'm doing it.
PCT sucks for us all, but it comes with cycling. Done right there really is minimal impact.
May not be that bad mate. I've never suffered too much. Psychologically a little pissed off that I'm not growing at the same rate etc, but I've never suffered to the extent many complain of. Go into it with a positive attitude, keep your diet tidy and hit the gym hard. The way you handle pct will have a huge baring on how much of your on cycle gains you keep.
Okay, thanks I'll stay positive. I do bloodwork regularly so I'll be able to keep on top of anything that arises. I just really don't want to screw up my HPTA. I should have some bloodwork to post too. Should be interesting.
I'm nearing the end of my cycle aswell and was wondering is it a bad idea to begin cutting during PCT? I'm happy enough with the gains I've made and have 3 weeks left so was thinking of using these last 3 weeks to lose a little fat rather than bulk. Seen as the muscle will start to diminish normally from the low test would a cutting diet just make that worse?
Cutting diet with low test or during pct is sucicide for your gains. If you did it right you gained a years worh of muscle in 12 weeks and the body is not used to that musvle as it would be if you gained it slowly over a year so the body will drop it as soon as you stop feeding it the big calories. Drop into a deficit of cals and say goodbye to it all. Seen it first hand many times. Like catalyst said keep eating big like you were on cycle. I wouldn't suggest starting to diet util you're 3 months post cycle.
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I wouldn't personally. If you've been bulking, continue in terms of diet and training until you're through pct and a little after. Your focus needs to be on preserving what you've built.
X2 bro, you want to let your body kind of stabilize at it's new size, keep calories up at least a month after pct then started to taper them down , this should help solidify your gains... so I'd say save the cutting for a couple months down the road brother no rush, enjoy your new gains n size for awhile, then cut! I'm about to start my bulking cycle n I'm going to be doing the taper of calories a month after pct too, it just makes sense to me to do it this way.
This is just my opinion though brother, good luck n yeah pct can be depressing, stay with a positive mindset n positive results will continue