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Caffeine nausea

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'Sup lads 'n' lassies

Does anyone else suffer from nausea from caffeine?

I recent times, I have been getting sever nausea in the morning (thought I was pregnant for a while!), and eventually nailed it down to a cuppa coffee. I was certain it was the milk, so I switched to cream, same issue.
Then I noticed that during the day, I was getting the same nausea at the end of the workout - eventually realised that the caffeine I was putting in with my BCAA's seemed to be the culprit.

So it's not necessarily just coffee, but the caffeine itself, it seems at least, that's causing the problem. Of course I cut back on coffee for a while but no joy, gave it up for a spell same issue due to the pure caffeine, dropped both the coffee and caffeine problem solved. Went back to them and still seem to get it when I take some coffee/caffeine in. Im in my forties and this is new! It has developed within the last year only, I would say

Anyone else get this?

vhman's picture

This is very common with higher doses of caffeine. Everyone's ceiling is different, so lower you dose to 100 mg or less and see how you do.

As a side note, I don't see your logic when you switched from milk to cream. If you were thinking you had lactose issues, cream has more lactose than milk.

giardap's picture

That's interesting. I may have driven it too high through developing a tolerance... until now that is.
My tolerance (in terms of efficacy of the stim) is so high now that I really need a break, so I have canned the caffeine for now, see how we go for a spell, then will reintroduce at the lower levels as you suggest.

Re: Milk; overall sugars (being bad and double that of cream) vs fats (being good and significantly higher in cream) rather than lactose issues alone per se

vhman's picture

I am fine with up to 200 mg of caffeine in a sitting, but I get sick with anything above that. My pre-workout has lower caffeine levels (around 150 mg per serving) and I don't go over.
Sounds like you're on the right path.

As for milk vs cream, they are actually about the same as far as lactose levels, but most people seem to be more sensitive to cream for some reason. Could be the added richness, but I haven't found any research to that fact. Just wanted to bring it up to make sure you're looking at everything.
Best of luck and let us know how it goes.

WINNING's picture

This is so me. I have the pills ams wifey keeps begging me to go to the endo. I have been just throwing up and keep going.

giardap's picture

Now that's really interesting JB, but glad you got it sorted
Hmmm, I wonder if there is a correlation. I had to get an endoscopy 6 months ago to check for ulcer/esophageal issues - i personally suspected Dysphagia. It came back negative though, never resolved really but the problem is now infrequent and intermittent
hmmm, I wonder

Makwa's picture

How much coffee/caffeine are you taking?

giardap's picture

Formerly.... way too much, a strong cup an hour throughout the day. Coupled with 360mg of caffeine in the pre- or perri-shake
However in recent times, just the 360mg in a pre with leucine
for example, today, no coffee at all just the 360mg in a pre with leucine and I was retching the whole way through my workout, trying not to puke. Disasterous

Makwa's picture

That much caffeine would put me in a coma. I tried a pre-wo once that had that much caffeine in it and I had to cut the workout short. Felt like my head was going to explode after every set. I was up sick with a splitting headache and nausea all night long. 100mg pre-wo is all I can handle.

giardap's picture

That sounds pretty severe and yeah its a bit of a shame really as there are benefits to be had.

I never drank coffee until I did an masters, then I needed it, the tolerance goes through the roof pretty swiftly. I think I am going to ditch the pure caff as a pwo and switch to mct oil for a spell, see how it goes

Greg's picture

What's your blood pressure? Might be high where caffeine and working out pushes you over the top. High RBC might also be an issue.

giardap's picture

Well my BP off cycle is always in range but when I cycle it notches up to somewhere between 135-150 and sys somehwere between 85-90
Last week I was at 147-150 and on Sunday I was at 135
Typically if I let estro go up it goes to the higher end of the range, so the exog test is what causes it really and it drops perfectly back to normal after a cycle

I was in with the doc last week (hence the checking of BP at home to see where I am when not sitting in front of my super sexy doctor, man she is sexy). Im due to get bloods back now this week but I do believe that RBC is up too as I brushed teeth a little hard and had some blood on the brush (no issue just brushing too hard) but anyway, the colour of the blood was very noticeably brighter red than you might normally see (not that bleeding gums are normal) - anecdotal evidence of course, but I have my suspicions