BPI Vortex PWO Concern
Ok, let me start by saying that only reason i'm posting this is because its almost 2am and i'm still fucking awake right now and having what feels like mild hot flashes and sweating slightly under my bedsheets when i'm laying down and that is with my fan on high and AC on. I started taking this about a week and half ago @ 2 scoops. Fast forward to a few days ago and today.
Fuck.This.Shit.
The first 30 minutes or so of my workouts are amazing, after that its a struggle to even continue.
I feel like throwing up, jittery, I even get this weird cold feeling to the point where I want to put on a sweater, sweating like if I was on gear (been off cycle for almost 2 months now), not kidding here, sweat was pouring down my face after my first 2 sets of squats today and i start getting fatigued little by little, like a crash maybe?
My workouts last about 1:30-2 hours but lately these last few days i'd be lying my ass off If I said I was in there over an hour. I'm discontinuing this PWO and any other ones to see if the situation ceases. Will keep you guys posted over the next couple of days but I just wanted to let everyone know to watch out if your taking this for a PWO or thinking of it, maybe its just my body doesn't agree with it, i'm no doctor, but I sure as hell wasn't feeling like this before!
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I havet tried that one, but I had a similar experience with Image Sports (BPI sister brand) Pump HD I think it was called. But ya some agree with me a lot better than others and sometimes there can be different reactions day to day even. The last couple weeks Ive just heen having some green tea before I go and that seems pretty good. I havet had the heartburn I sometimes get while training either, which is great.
UPDATE-
Took no PWO's today. Made 2 shots of some bomb ass Cuban coffee and headed off.
Felt great, no cold shivers, no fatigue like before, wasn't sweating like a pig and was pushing the same damn weight I was when on PWO, I even threw in an extra set with an added 2 dimes after me and my partner were done with each exercise.
Got home and dumped all of em I had out, jack3D, napalm, vortex, all in the trash.
I'll stick with the coffee for now till I can afford to get my hands on some TNE and see what all the hype is about.
Thanks for the advice everyone, before I came on this website I thought gear was more dangerous then PWO's and such, little by little I am learning more through reading and self discovery.
GearofWarI'd +1 you if I could for this my brother. No karma in OT though. Good fucking work nonetheless. Glad you ass-banged that iron without any of those horrible PWOs!
hey Cool, I used to love my stims back when they used 1-3-dymethl and have tried all your major brands and some lesser known companys, know here's what I found since they removed that from the market what many brands use to replace it with is a herb called yohimbe and I found every pwo I've used containing that herb has lit my ass up the same way with all the symptoms your referring to. if I was a betting man
I would say your allergic to that stuff as well. as for me I just stick with black coffee these days.
JUNK.... the whole lot of em!
G.O.W Down at the bottom of the thread has it right,,,,,, no truer words to describe ALL pre=WO shite.
I think everyone reacts different to PWOs. I have tried quite a few and I have experienced some of the sides you described above with a few of them. I have found a couple I really like and feel great with them and use them almost every time I workout. I never go over the recommended dose and I never have any problems. I am also not overly sensitive to caffeine, which I'm sure makes a difference.
Many supplement shops will give you free samples of PWOs, so I would recommend trying several before you purchase one. (I've tried a sample of vortex and was fine with it).
I bought some of that stuff.. worked the first couple of times.. I think I have
like half a container left. Not for me.. didnt they make that stuff out
of dandelions or something ?..
200 mgs of cafiene and 16-24 of ephedrine thats all i use
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GearofWarI've grown to hate all PWO's. Some can give you "stim dick", some make you feel sick to your stomach, some give you jitters, insomnia, tremors, excess sweating, vomiting, and the best ones give you all of those symptoms at once! If I wanted to deal with harsh sides I'll just stick to the real juice and get real results. Lord knows it's probably safer to use juice than unregulated supps backed by big business. Give me some TNE any day over those sickly sweet tasting powdered horror shows. Never had a good experience with a single one..
Not to mention what they do to your gut. Since I stopped using PWO supplements my gut has been very easy to get along with.
Have yet to give TNE a try but i see a lot of people talking about its greatness. For the moment i'm switching over to some Cuban coffee right before hitting the gym.
GearofWarIt's pretty awesome stuff. I recommend it if funds allow. But seriously, dumping those horrible PWOs is going to make you feel so much better. I know because I've always had issues with aggression or lack thereof. I've tried many, many different PWO's in an attempt at intensifying my workouts and they're all the same. From Gaspari to Cellucor, BPI, Musclpharm, Purus Labs, BSN, Universal Animal Pak, and USP Labs. All shit. The only things that I've tried that truly work for me are Cheque Drops(not recommending but they work), TNE, and my favorite, Halotestin. Other than that, it's a strong cup of Starbucks Joe for me.