posted Wed, 05/24/2023 - 19:45
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Arnold said he only used 2 compounds
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So it says Arnold only used 100mg of test weekly and 15mg of dbol to win 7 Mr Olympia titles anyone wanna call bs or was he just that much better than everyone else?
https://fitnessvolt.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-2-compound-ped-prime-career/
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From the 1977-79 Mr. Olympa Frank Zane's diary. Can be verified
"Remembering back, re-dream a 1970"s familiar theme where only two characters, actors deemed Diana Bowl and Louie, Prima Bowl on TV, both of whom worked as a team. Known as miles around as the bowlers in town. PRIMO drove 100 MILES A WEEK COMBINING 15 MILLY GRAMola bars daily from DIANA, not worried about getting fat, you cannot not on that in those days. But that was then, this is now, a growing cast of actors shove, share center stage all playing the same part at the same time. I awake amazed, wondering how this ridiculous play isn't dying by now."
''According to Schwarzenegger, he used 15 milligrams of Dianabol daily and 100 milligrams of testosterone a week. '' THAT'S A LIE !
Arnold said 100mg BUT it was NOT test but primo ! AND....it was his first cycle when he came to USA ! There was a doctor IN the Gold Gym and every bodybuilder will go and see him to get the prescription. The 15mg dbol and 100mg primo was the starter cycle. NO WAY he kept this dosage to build his 7 time Mr Olympia physique. People were speculating more on 600-800 primo.
A lot of people more knowledgeable than this ''sensational media'' did a MUCH better job on what took Arnold. More plates, more dates, Ricky (who knew first hand as he was part of that 70 era) just to name a few.
I can believe the low test dose but he had to have been on more anabolics. AIs werent developed until the 80s so it would make sense to keep test moderate (200-300) and rely on primo and deca. But no fuckin way he was on less than 250mg of total anabolics a week.
Breakfast of champions blue hearts!!!
Total bs. Arnold had a doctor, cmon man!
Yeah he had a Doctor too. Most bodybuilders did around that time.
I believe it. I seen guys in prison that were jacked af. They were on a shitty prison diet and just got huge. Sometimes it’s the genetics. They don’t have steroids in prison.
Sooooo true
There are steriods in some prisons, especially if you wanted them you could make it happen. But 99 % of those huge guys in prison are natural. and yea the chow hall might even serve less then 2000 calories but with commissary and guys stealing from the kitchen they make it work. One of my theories is that almost every second your not training or eating your laying down. and you usually are on lockdown after every meal so every time you eat you go take an hour long nap. another theory that I saw somewhere is that living in such a life and death environment has inmates testosterone levels crazy high. Another possibility is that alot of those guys were on drugs and living the street life and were severely malnourished before going to prison, then they start working out and eating three times s day and there body just explodes. especially when you just train all day eat and sleep.
Yess most of the huge guys in prison are natural. Thanks for clearing that up cause some folks would think otherwise. I saw a buddy of mine after release who repped 405 on bench like it was 135. Some powerlifters I know can't do that! And I know he was natural for sure.
Ya people always have the argument that there's heroin and meth so you can get steroids. and what there missing is that 75% of inmates are heroin and meth addicts. But because there is money to be made and ways to smuggle stuff in you COULD get steroids but most of the time there probably isn't any already there, if you wanted to pay you could get them brought in for you but unless your compound already has some guys doing it already youd probably be the one to start it. Sure some of the big yards in cali probably have some stuff there now, probably just orals tho, unless you wanna share needles with HUNDREDS of addicts with hepc and hiv. AND they probably don't want to let you put it in your ass and clog it with all your oil. You clog their ONE needle and you are a dead man, its been used thousands of times, resharpened on concrete and lubed up with Vaseline because the plunger stopped sliding, its a nightmare. or pay 20-50$ just for the syringe nevermind the gear. There's just so much that goes into it that the average person isnt thinking of.
+1 Fact is the majority of inmates in the PENITENTIARY aren't on gear and they still get swole. Plain and simple. We both know this and good point man. RDA recommended diet with around 2000 calories if I remember right. If you have money snacks are in commissary. In some places you can buy protein powder
ya i think its 2000 but thats if you ate every single pea, and condiment they gave you, every bit of crust, the beverage everything. Also almost no real meat alot of soy and I've hear rumors of them adding some type of chemical to lower testosterone to make guys less aggressive and less horny. So on paper you would think prison would be the hardest place to gain weight and somehow its where guys just blow up. I think when you do a million push ups a day your body just says "fuck it, I guess were growing" no matter what your genetics are or what you eat lol.
Prison where I was at fed you very good.
Example two cups of rice.
Cup and a half of chili on top woth real beef and beans
One orange
Big piece of corn bread.
I know that’s not a lot for dinner but woth the three meals but it’s 2,000 calories. You have a choice of meat or soy.
When I did my time back in the early 2000's Missouri fed damn good. Hell I'd hit chow line twice on pancake mornings.
what?!?!?!?! seconds on pancake day! that wouldve been awesome, pancake day was the best day of the week, and there was no seconds on anything. Ive been In a level 5 max and there was no chow hall, you ate in the cell or on the unit, and definitely no seconds. And then I've been in mediums were there was chow halls and you definitely ate bigger servings but still no seconds
Damn one needle? Yeah what I'm finding is alot of guys here and all around just are in denial of the fact that we aren't all the same and just because they struggle to put on muscle at a higher dosage doesn't mean that others are the same. Lol some guys get upset over that simple fact seriously. IT'S A FACT lol. Damn. I've seen a few guys that never touched weights that were straight big and strong. These types are rare but it doesn't mean that these types have to be on juice. Some of these types are in jail as you know. And also it's possible that they can go lower with dosages and grow if they decided to use juice. Meanwhile that other guy is still in disbelief calling BS!
Maybe not one, but there might be like one per housing unit, or one per like race group or you might have a guy who works in the infirmary who could get you a fresh one every week I'm mean it really depends there's some Minimum security camps that have everything you could ever want. Ya i think social media has kinda made everyone think if your big it has to be steroids and its just not true. I knew one black guy who was so scary looking he had severe acne scars on his face like tiny holes all over and he was like 6'2 140 pounds like a skeleton from smoking crack, like two years later he was MASSIVE and insane structure and muscle bellies, probably 8% bodyfat without trying. He looked like a smaller Ronnie Coleman, probably like 240 but just absolutely perfect shape, No homo but just perfect everything, He was scary at 140ish and TERRYFYING at 240, he was just so loud and aggressive and had such a mean face and deep southern Mississippi accent. IDK what his past training history was, but only two years training to look like that was crazy, he could've been a serious competitor, idk how he wouldve responded to gear but I can only imagine how crazy he would've looked. Look at lee priest at like 18 or 19 just crazy as a natural. Id say most physiques you see that arnt on stage and even some that are on stage are achievable naturally, not achievable for everyone naturally and I think people get it wrong. It may not be realistic for you or some guy you know to obtain it but for someone else it is.
Absolutely brother. Those guys are out there no doubt.
ED seemed to find a way to run a cycle in the joint. "Needle" was no problem.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/off-topic/how-to-run-a-cycle-in-th...
Holy shit, this is so well written, I have to read this whole thing, and just to add, guys do make syringes in there, not as crude as ED but pretty fucking rough. but there injecting IV not IM so a real needle is still needed and melt it to a pen tube and then squeeze a ball(like that booger sucker thing for toddlers) to inject with the air pressure, pretty Ingenius actually.
It would behoove you to read all chapters of ED's little stint in prison.
I can only assume that in prison where there is a will there is a way.
I can say you aren’t lying about that. I went in as a 155 pound alcoholic pill head to getting out at 208 pounds. I lived off ramen. Peanut butter. And mackerel. Worked out twice a day and slept a lot. Sometimes prison will do the body wonders. Oh and btw your right gear was available in there.
Lol
Jack Mack. That’s a package item there
I went in at 142 pounds and came out at 185. I think if I was ten years younger I could have hit 195. A quarter gram of weed In there is 50$ so gear most guys won’t even try to afford gear. Guy who trained me was. Natural. He was 198 pounds but was only 5 foot 6. Inclining 355
There were plenty of geared up power lifters n when I was in. Steroids were pretty easy to get. The syringes were a little more challenging but it got done. It’s worth mentioning that these guys quite literally just train, eat and rest. And most of the guys that are that big are eating big.
No roids in prison? Lotta heroine, meth, coke, pills....
Yup but that shit will get you cut up.
No drugs
No gambling
No gangs.
Three rules to stay out of trouble there. At least where I was.
Not much meth in my area. Matter of fact I never seen meth before. If I had a bunch of it I wouldn’t know what it was.
I’m a prime example of how to stay out of prison. I even got my gun rights back. Trust me I’ll never do anything to go back. I really straightened my life out. School and career. My P.O. said I was the best parolee he ever had. I been off parole for over ten years now
They aren't just cut, some add muscle size. I knew a few guys personally that did time in the penn and got out looking like an NFL linebacker. Neck wider than a tree trunk. I even told both of them that they had to be on juice. They both said "hell noo just weights and food." Ordinary folk just can't or don't wanna understand it seems @Bill1976
I meant drugs will get you cut as in stitches. Using drugs there is bad news. I mean I smoked a joint a couple of times but owing shot to the gangs that sell it is dangerous if you front it and don’t pay
I gotcha. You're right.
I been trying to tell some of these dudes just that. I heard those guys are on like 2000 calories
Yup except mess hall guys. We take food out. Plus we get 35 pound food packages every month from our families
True. Commissary too. But still everybody can't afford big food packages cause they don't have the money for it or they don't have family support. As you know some come in poor and lonely and leave that way.
Alot of ole school guys looked down on testosterone because of the inreased water retention
All them dudes lived off dbol and deca and primo!
Facts
Not accurate he popped dbol like pez
Ahhh I doubt that big time. Now alot of average gym guys used doctor recommended dosages but there were some guys that pushed the limit on dosages and unfortunately most of those same dudes are dead or have health issues. That's the price that came with abuse. Arnold claims a genetic heart condition but he's had a few heart operations. If the steroid abuse didn't cause his heart condition it sure didn't help him, in fact probably made it worse.
Pretty sure he was a huge fan of the B-12 injections too, I remember reading that somewhere. Dbol and B-12.
Yeah that wouldn't surprise me at all. With his silly personality I could see him totally abusing steroids.
He really is a bit of a goofball isn’t he?
Straight silly mode! He's lucky that big Lou Ferrigno didn't lay him out lol
Lou ferrigno was one of my favorites. Was much bigger than Arnold too. If I remembered how to post the I would post it
Two words...Incredible Hulk
Bro, if it came to fists during that breakfast scene in Pumping Iron, my money is on Lou all day. Big ol’ New York wop lol. There’s been some rip offs over the years. Lou was ripped off a little, but there’s bigger ones that got shafted, Oliva, Mentzer, Platz, Strydom, the list goes on. But Sergio deserved the Sandow more than once.
Yessir! My all time favorite "The Myth".
Man I remember Arnold had the judges take them into a room with a dark background and walls. Somehow I guess he thought it would make Sergio look smaller. Well Arnold didn't have to do that cause the fix was already in.
Sergio had some arms on him didn’t he? They were the size of some guys legs
Its pretty easy to tell he's talking shit - because if he did THAT well on just 100mg Test per week then why didn't he try 500mg for example?! 100mg would be pointless as its basically the same as what a natty produces minus the ester weight. He and others from that period were well known for saying they took handfuls of Dbol at a time as they didn't realise it was toxic to the liver at that point. It was only as the years went on that they started to realise.
Exactly, I heard Tom Platts saying he only took 100mg of Deca P/W and 20 mg winistrol P/D. Even though previously he stated using no steroids during his career you just can't believe these guys
At least Dorian was more honest with his Dbol used on almost all off seasons. He is still currently taking 20mg of test per day and still looks great and healthy. Jay cutler claims to be on 250mg per week all year around.