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Whats up, folks?
Im 29 and have an athletic build based around work and different sports. I have never used a steroid but looking to gain more mass.. Im tall, long arms, and can't build mass very well even with a hell of a food intake and a very well established workout routine.

I am thinking about using Test and Deca in order to put on the mass, i can cut no problem, just can't build the mass.

What would you recommend.. 29, 5'10", high food intake, 150# athletic build..

Thanks,
KB

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

B.E.E.F.............. and a ton of carbs.

Makwa's picture

You seem to have fallen into the trap like so many do, thinking that steroids can perform miracles. If you are not able to put on some significant weight given your stats with just diet and training then I hate to break it to you but steriods won't do a damn thing for you. You can't build something from nothing. Steroids need food to make you grow and you are not eating properly right now so what do you expect the steroids to do. You will gain some weight initially from glycogen retention even with a shitty diet but after cycle that goes away and you are right back where you started and even worse since you have to try and recover your HPTA. In that recovery process you will likely lose even more muscle mass while you are waiting for homeostasis of your hormones since you had really no muscle base to begin with. Best thing you can do right now is eat and stay away from AAS at this stage of your development.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-gain/the-har...

shiva4's picture

it should be eating time for you and that's it. you're looking to resolve a problem in the wrong way. steroids or not, you can't grow without eating enough food.

shiva4's picture

well it sounds like you've been going through a lot. an over stimulated CNS and high stress decrease cognition and memory recall.

PPGfreak's picture

Everyone here is correct. I'm 5'9 (not tall lol) and weigh 210 and just started a cycle. It doesn't make any sense to take steroids and maybe get to 175lb and still look skinny. Sorry

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BigWA67's picture

Hey brother not being a dick but at 5 10. 160 you definitely need to get your diet tuned in way more put on another 40 pounds before you even think about using gear bro I'm 5 10 and I didn't even begin to think about gear till I was 205 naturally. There are lots of good knowledgeable guys on here than can help with your diet!!!

tore281's picture

my intake is more than my cousin who plays in the NFL.. I eat and i never miss a meal.. I don't know what the issue is but i work from usually 4am to 6pm then finish CPU work by 10pm... My whole family is relatively small frame.. I'm decently built, just can't break the 150lb plateau.. cousin is 6' 10" 260.. thats not a normal receiver frame but we both have great strength just no major build characteristics

tore281's picture

my typical day is wake up at 4am and hit the gym basically fasting as it is to early to eat at that point. Then, 4 eggs over easy, hash browns (3 red potatoes) fried in olive oil, 4 sausage patties and a 20oz bottle of water. work from 6:30 to 11:30 medium to heavy fabrication work and operations management. lunch is typically either gyro platter or, BWW lunch special or 12-18 oz ribeye and the fixings. Finish working usually about 6pm and fix supper - typical family meal Hamburgers, steaks, chicken, tuna patties or other and whatever is left i usually clean up then hit the gym again. I don't eat 5 plates of shit but i also don't eat any bread other than a hamburger bun, have no soda intake, drink beer pretty regularly and stay the hell away from pasta.. Im not looking to perform miracles at all. I lift pretty heavy in general based on the workout 220 bench 460 deadlift and 320 squat.. usually 5 or 6 reps of declining 4-2 sets

Makwa's picture

hit the gym basically fasting as it is to early to eat at that point.

Mistake #1. Going to be tough to gain any muscle that way

then hit the gym again

Mistake #2. You were already at the gym and since you aren't eating enough putting another workout in there is going to just set you back

i also don't eat any bread other than a hamburger bun, have no soda intake, drink beer pretty regularly and stay the hell away from pasta

Mistakes # 3,4,5,6
Did you not read my hardgainers bible. You need to eat all the bread, drink all the soda and eat all the pasta you can get your hands on. Drinking beer regularly is pretty self explanatory.

Pretty easy to see why you are stuck at 150 lbs. You need to make some diet modifications. You will not overcome any of those mistakes by using AAS.

Muffins's picture

Bags on bags of chips.

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